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QLD Premier Rugby 2025

Marbig

Fred Wood (13)
The major semi was a great game of rugby but see that the Brothers Red Bib gent who is not a registered medic created some issues around the blue card in the second half. He pick the player up and pushed him back into play after he had been clearly concussed.
it is irresponsible of Brothers & the QRU to continue to allow this muppet to wear a red bib run up and down the sideline yelling instructions and racing past injured players in order to get his rugby messages to the huddle.
Brothers you are better than this so let him sit out the GF because what he did today was disgraceful and then in the middle of the field to what appeared to be questioning the referee’s blue card decision was not a great sight for rugby’s emphasis on player safety.
I missed this specific incident but I have a real problem with "medics" coaching from the sideline (and sometimes the field). There's giving encouragement and then there is straight up coaching which is what that "medic" was doing all game.
 

Oldschool

Dave Cowper (27)
What happened to the Doggies? The best attacking backline in the competition and they failed to fire a shot!

I think Easts will get over Bond this weekend, hardly 100% confident but I feel like Tigertown have been cooking something special this year and will get to the GF.
They really missed that Number 8 in the wider channels. The best brain snap ever. Rucking the head of a player not once, twice, but 3 times in front of an international TMO and one of the most officious refs in the QPR (who had a great game BTW). That allowed Bond to D up really well in that first 30, If the 8 was on the field they would of scored and it's a different ball game.
 

MoneyBill685

Fred Wood (13)
I missed this specific incident but I have a real problem with "medics" coaching from the sideline (and sometimes the field). There's giving encouragement and then there is straight up coaching which is what that "medic" was doing all game.
Hes an absolute tool. When easts were in the 22 of brothers, he would walk along the in goal and sideline, telling players where to go and what to do. Also asking touchies what was that call for. Mate your job is to help players that are injured. Not go round asking referees what the calls were and whether they were correct.
 

Keeno3

Peter Burge (5)
What happened to the Doggies? The best attacking backline in the competition and they failed to fire a shot!

I think Easts will get over Bond this weekend, hardly 100% confident but I feel like Tigertown have been cooking something special this year and will get to the GF.
I agree - Easts have had a good ability to win tough ones this year. They can get both Bond and Brothers. Best of luck to Bond though, they have been seriously impressive this year especially in the second half of the season.
 

SouthernX

Greg Davis (50)
Would the doggies had one of the great for&against points total this year

probably have to go back to some of those Heenan teams at UQ last decade to have a squad have a 300+ differential

anyways bet a lot of the boys would be disappointed - I think they’ll be back in the mixer next year

Let’s go Bond!!!
 

PhilClinton

Mark Ella (57)
Just watched the replay of the Wests incident - that bloke must be one of the biggest peanuts going around QPR. Hopefully Elwee put him on blast after the game. I don't think his last pay cheque will be clearing.

I heard one of the Wests players vacated the field voluntarily late in the second half and wasn't present in the change rooms after the game. Couldn't see it happening on the replay though.
 

MoneyBill685

Fred Wood (13)
Just watched the replay of the Wests incident - that bloke must be one of the biggest peanuts going around QPR. Hopefully Elwee put him on blast after the game. I don't think his last pay cheque will be clearing.

I heard one of the Wests players vacated the field voluntarily late in the second half and wasn't present in the change rooms after the game. Couldn't see it happening on the replay though.
Not sure if it was the same player you're referring to, but one of the front rowers left the field straight after the final whistle up the stairs, didn't bother shaking anyone's hands. Seemed pretty pissed
 

Bulldog

Colin Windon (37)
Hes an absolute tool. When easts were in the 22 of brothers, he would walk along the in goal and sideline, telling players where to go and what to do. Also asking touchies what was that call for. Mate your job is to help players that are injured. Not go round asking referees what the calls were and whether they were correct.
The issue is he has no medical qualifications and if you watch back over the years he will actually run past injured players to get his message out. In the ACC 2024 at Criosby young Charlie Brosnan lay motionless on the ground with a dislocated hip and the Brothers “Medic“ runs straight past him.
He needs to grow up and put on a yellow bib which they are only allowed 2 of with one being the tee runner.
But yesterday performance to endeavour to get a clearly concussed player back into the fold and then argue the toss with the referee was disgraceful.
I sincerely hope that there doesn’t come a time where someone is sincerely in need of medical attention and it isn’t available due to the fact that this individual is wearing the red bib.
I believe that several complaints have been made over the years and the QRU/Referees do nothing about it.
 
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Adam84

John Eales (66)
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PhilClinton

Mark Ella (57)
Out of interest does the ‘medic’ actually have to be medically qualified in anything? I know in the past at GPS we have used physios in that role and some aren’t more medically qualified than the average punter.

There has always been a club doctor on site for severe medical issues.
 

LevitatingSocks

Charlie Fox (21)
Out of interest does the ‘medic’ actually have to be medically qualified in anything? I know in the past at GPS we have used physios in that role and some aren’t more medically qualified than the average punter.

There has always been a club doctor on site for severe medical issues.
Technically nothing beyond an online course and a first aid/bls cert.

Your bread and butter as a medic would be strapping and MSK injuries. Things that physios are quite good at, especially ones that have been involved with high performance sport.

Anything more acute goes to the ED. Something like ALS or further medical training is less useful than you'd think because the necessary gear is absent until the ambos show up (at which point the patient belongs to the ambos anyway) or the person is in a hospital environment (where handover to doctors occurs).
 

PhilClinton

Mark Ella (57)
It won’t be Rex Tapuai. Sunnybank were quick to announce him taking the reins next season.

Interesting - I hope he goes well, I know he's a loyal Sunnybank clubman and former player.

I do think the landscape is changing though and whilst it is always a good story to promote these great club men, the reality is to be successful you need coaches who've taken that next step through the ranks and can attract talent outside the standard pools.

Look at some of the recent seasons from traditionally strong clubs like GPS and UQ. Both hired internally and have fallen flat in recent times.

Out of the teams in the finals this year Simon Craig goes against my theory, but he has also spent a lot of time in QRU based setups so has that next level of experience. Even someone like Pup McCormack properly cut his teeth down in the Shute Sheild before coming back and having proper success.
 
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Quicktapsonly

Sydney Middleton (9)
Interesting - I hope he goes well, I know he's a loyal Sunnybank clubman and former player.

I do think the landscape is changing though and whilst it is always a good story to promote these great club men, the reality is to be successful you need coaches who've taken that next step through the ranks and can attract talent outside the standard pools.

Look at some of the recent seasons from traditionally strong clubs like GPS and UQ. Both hired internally and have fallen flat in recent times.

Out of the teams in the finals this year Simon Craig goes against my theory, but he has also spent a lot of time in QRU based setups so has that next level of experience. Even someone like Pup McCormack properly cut his teeth down in the Shute Sheild before coming back and having proper success.
I agree, I think you need to look wider.

Perhaps if their colts program had been #1 for several seasons and you wanted to carry those players through due to rapport.
 

Full Mark

Frank Row (1)
The issue is he has no medical qualifications and if you watch back over the years he will actually run past injured players to get his message out. In the ACC 2024 at Criosby young Charlie Brosnan lay motionless on the ground with a dislocated hip and the Brothers “Medic“ runs straight past him.
He needs to grow up and put on a yellow bib which they are only allowed 2 of with one being the tee runner.
But yesterday performance to endeavour to get a clearly concussed player back into the fold and then argue the toss with the referee was disgraceful.
I sincerely hope that there doesn’t come a time where someone is sincerely in need of medical attention and it isn’t available due to the fact that this individual is wearing the red bib.
I believe that several complaints have been made over the years and the QRU/Referees do nothing about it.
Player safety is paramount absolutely no doubt about it. But, Bulldog are you a doctor? You have just stated he was “CLEARLY” concussed… from the sideline or lounge room that is speculation. The red bib gent in question has had his issues over the years no doubt… I would be shocked that a club like brothers would not have the players best interest at heart.

The other thing that has been left out of this conversation…. The high shot on the brothers play that caused the head knock went missed by the ref and touch judge… This is also an issue.
The Easts backs coach a few years back was doing the same thing in the Medic vest… not great but never pulled up either.
 

MoneyBill685

Fred Wood (13)
Player safety is paramount absolutely no doubt about it. But, Bulldog are you a doctor? You have just stated he was “CLEARLY” concussed… from the sideline or lounge room that is speculation. The red bib gent in question has had his issues over the years no doubt… I would be shocked that a club like brothers would not have the players best interest at heart.

The other thing that has been left out of this conversation…. The high shot on the brothers play that caused the head knock went missed by the ref and touch judge… This is also an issue.
The Easts backs coach a few years back was doing the same thing in the Medic vest… not great but never pulled up either.
Full Mark...out of interest, you don't happen to wear a bib that's red on the weekends do you?
 

SouthernX

Greg Davis (50)
Full Mark...out of interest, you don't happen to wear a bib that's red on the weekends do you?

that was my thoughts

all though bulldog seems clearly triggered by this guy… sometimes it’s simply a bib in the bag and you must wear it to walk on the field

I think we can all agree our bib members and concussion protocols are taken way more seriously then the NRL/Rugby league
 

LevitatingSocks

Charlie Fox (21)
that was my thoughts

all though bulldog seems clearly triggered by this guy… sometimes it’s simply a bib in the bag and you must wear it to walk on the field

I think we can all agree our bib members and concussion protocols are taken way more seriously then the NRL/Rugby league
yet to see a medic spray down the ball with water before a restart so that's an improvement
 

Rugbynovice

Stan Wickham (3)
The major semi was a great game of rugby but see that the Brothers Red Bib gent who is not a registered medic created some issues around the blue card in the second half. He pick the player up and pushed him back into play after he had been clearly concussed.
it is irresponsible of Brothers & the QRU to continue to allow this muppet to wear a red bib run up and down the sideline yelling instructions and racing past injured players in order to get his rugby messages to the huddle.
Brothers you are better than this so let him sit out the GF because what he did today was disgraceful and then in the middle of the field to what appeared to be questioning the referee’s blue card decision was not a great sight for rugby’s emphasis on player safety.
Hi Bulldog, thank you for your commentary regarding the incident that occurred during the Major Semi involving the Brothers #12. However, I believe it is important that the factual sequence of events is clearly outlined.

It should be noted that the Brothers #12 was struck in the back of the head by a high contact from the Easts #8. He remained on the ground for exactly 60 seconds before being assisted to his feet by the Brothers medical staff. During this time, he was assessed for concussion symptoms through both observation and questioning. The three questions asked were: Where are you? What day is it? What is the score? The player answered all three correctly and, in the view of the Brothers medics, displayed no observable signs of concussion.

The match-day doctor (wearing a black Guinness hoodie) was also present at the scene. The Brothers medic asked whether he would like to conduct his own assessment before the player resumed. At that stage, the doctor was satisfied that no concussion had been sustained, and the player was permitted to continue.

In the following five minutes, Easts medical staff independently reviewed video footage and began pressing the match-day doctor to intervene and remove the player. The doctor, perhaps influenced by these discussions, re-entered the playing area, halting the game and engaging the referee. Rather than providing a direct medical diagnosis, he attempted to show the referee footage of the incident. The referee (correctly) declined to view it, as retrospective video review is not part of concussion protocol, nor is it the referee’s responsibility or expertise in the way this event had transpired.

After extended discussions which created confusion given such a process does not exist in community rugby union it was ultimately suggested that the player leave the field, which he did. Despite now indicating a concussion had been sustained, the match-day doctor did not follow up with the player post-game until approached by the Brothers medical staff to do so.

While this account may not generate the same controversy as some opinions circulating, it reflects the facts as described by those directly involved. What is concerning, however, is that much of the discussion has centred on the concussion management process rather than the foul play that caused the incident in the first place. If a retrospective review were to be applied, it would seem more appropriate that the Easts No.8 be sanctioned with a yellow card, given the clear and direct contact to the head of the Brothers player.

I will address the separate claims relating to the Charlie Brosnan injury in a subsequent post as these are as fanciful as the assertion by Bulldog that the Brothers #12 was picked up and pushed back into play after he had been concussed.
 
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