Reds 2013
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We have chosen the socialist version of sports management with a salary cap designed to spread the wealth. The reality is that with this approach the best sides will lose players to the other sides, we lost Beale last season, you were lucky not to lose Genia as well.
It isn't about excellence, it is about the lessor sides being less shit
MrTimms
Ken Catchpole (46)
And that socialist utopia can't be reached if only a portion of the competition is being subject to it. I don't mind the idea in competitions such as NRL and AFL, but it won't work in SupeRugby without ALL teams doing it.
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Its always going to be difficult with the conference system, you only have to look at a team like the Crusaders and calculate the value of their players to realise the salary cap system isn't going to translate to these other countries.
However, i think their is room for such a system to work within the confines of the current competition, the outcome of the system is going to be solely dependent on all clubs sensibly evaluating the value of the players they sign. I think there are enormous merits to the salary cap system in influencing the pay scale of players and encouraging a fair distribution of talent amongst the provinces.
Im not so sure that the concept of stacking a team with talent to boost the chance of success is a recipe to a championship, it has failed to work for the Tahs the last 10 years. Allegedly the Reds had the lowest players wage bill in the country in 2011 when they won the championship, it was even lower then what they spend in 2010.
Yes it may mean the Reds lose a few players, but thats the reality of the situation, who knows, Ed Quirk might seamlessly fill the shoes of the departed Higgers and Higgers might be the missing link in the Rebels pack.
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Mark Ella (57)
Good post! I believe all teams in the Super XV should be playing with the same rules and regulations.
Set piece magic
John Solomon (38)
Yes as Timmsy has alluded to, the salary cap is interesting.
I like to use the carbon tax analogy, regardless of what you think of it:
Unless the world economy implements the carbon tax, australia will be at disadvantage.
Unless everyone in the s15 implements the Salary cap, Aus is at disadvantage
I like to use the carbon tax analogy, regardless of what you think of it:
Unless the world economy implements the carbon tax, australia will be at disadvantage.
Unless everyone in the s15 implements the Salary cap, Aus is at disadvantage
ChargerWA
Mark Loane (55)
I think if you susbscribe to the digital edition of The Australian you will get the rest of the article. That was just a teaser.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Higgers gooooooone..
Apparently...
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...-reds-for-rebels/story-e6frg7o6-1226357966071
Will need one of Murdoch's digital passes to read the article...
Apparently...
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...-reds-for-rebels/story-e6frg7o6-1226357966071
Will need one of Murdoch's digital passes to read the article...
ChargerWA
Mark Loane (55)
On JJJ news today they had an article regarding Quade Coopers future. Apparently he has decided to leave the decision of where he will be next year in his managers hands and he is just going to concentrate on Rugby.
Can't find it online, but seriously fucking hope it is wrong.
Can't find it online, but seriously fucking hope it is wrong.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Here you go :
WALLABIES backrower Scott Higginbotham will leave the Queensland Reds to play for Melbourne Rebels in next year's Super Rugby competition. As exclusively reported on The Australian's website yesterday, Higginbotham has agreed to terms with the Rebels, but an official announcement will probably not be made until next week. Higginbotham, who has played 11 Tests, made his Super Rugby debut for the Reds in 2008 and was a key member of last year's title-winning team. The Rebels made the recruitment of a ball- running backrower their priority for next season and the athletic Higginbotham fits the description perfectly. With British backrowers Gareth Delve and Michael Lipman returning to the UK at the..etc,nothing else of interest.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
If you use chrome or Firefox, you can copy the first sentence in the article, google search that sentence, hover over the first search result and a little arrow comes up on the right with a preview of the full article, then click on the full article and it takes you to the full article page. At least that has been working for the last couple weeks, I don't know if they have fixed that bug yet.
The Australian
Higginbotham departs Reds for Melbourne
- by: Bret Harris and AAP
- From: The Australian
- May 17, 2012 12:00AM
Reds backrower Scott Higginbotham. will join Melbourne Rebels next season Picture: Peter Wallis Source: The Daily Telegraph
WALLABIES backrower Scott Higginbotham will leave the Queensland Reds to play for Melbourne Rebels in next year's Super Rugby competition.
As exclusively reported on The Australian's website yesterday, Higginbotham has agreed to terms with the Rebels, but an official announcement will probably not be made until next week.
Higginbotham, who has played 11 Tests, made his Super Rugby debut for the Reds in 2008 and was a key member of last year's title-winning team.
The Rebels made the recruitment of a ball-running backrower their priority for next season and the athletic Higginbotham fits the description perfectly.
With British backrowers Gareth Delve and Michael Lipman returning to the UK at the end of the season, the Rebels needed a quality addition.
The versatile Higginbotham can play blindside flanker, number eight and even openside flanker if necessary.
While the Reds have talented young backrowers Liam Gill, Jake Schatz and Eddie Quirk, Higginbotham has unique skills.
The recruitment of Higginbotham, coupled with the arrival in Melbourne of Kurtley Beale and James O'Connor this year, will add to the feeling the Rebels are a team on the rise after their ground-breaking 28-19 win against the Crusaders last Saturday.
Despite the confidence in the Rebels camp, they cannot afford to take the struggling Western Force lightly when they meet in Perth on Sunday.
Melbourne coach Damien Hill said the Force had world-class players and the Rebels could not ease up.
"They've beaten the Reds and the Waratahs this year and that's two things that we're yet to achieve," he said.
The Rebels have only won once away from home, in Perth last season.
"The challenge this week is to transfer our form on the road," Hill said.
Exciting utility back Richard Kingi will miss out again with his hamstring injury proving slow to heal, however, backrower Tom Chamberlain has finally been given the all-clear to resume playing after suffering a head knock in late March. He will play club rugby in Melbourne.
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Real shame - Higgers is one of the blokes that makes up the "fabric" of the team - Horwill, Holmes, Slipper Genia, Diggers, Simmons, Daley & Quade and to a lesser degree Shatz, Gill, Quirk, Morahan are passionate Qlders. Am still firmly of the opinion that for crowd support from grassroots to corporate each franchise needs a core group of local lads.
RedsHappy
Tony Shaw (54)
Didn't you see this posted right here 7 hrs before Slim?
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Ken Catchpole (46)
It's a big shame, he is a great player and one who really seems dedicated and passionate about the reds. I hope he goes well for the rebels next year (just not against us though )
(Controversial statement mode on) I think he is probably more important to the reds than Cooper is. Lucas and to a lesser extent Sam Lane are keepers I reckon, and have filled in admirably after some starting jitters. They look like they would be able to develop into a great pair for the reds as an attacking back line. There is no denying QC (Quade Cooper)'s ability to do the magical and eclipse most rugby fly halfs in attack on his day, but with the other two guys previously mentioned there, it is a spot that has been shown can be filled.
Higgers, on the other hand. will be a difficult man to replace so readily. (Controversial statement mode off)
)(Controversial statement mode on) I think he is probably more important to the reds than Cooper is. Lucas and to a lesser extent Sam Lane are keepers I reckon, and have filled in admirably after some starting jitters. They look like they would be able to develop into a great pair for the reds as an attacking back line. There is no denying QC (Quade Cooper)'s ability to do the magical and eclipse most rugby fly halfs in attack on his day, but with the other two guys previously mentioned there, it is a spot that has been shown can be filled.
Higgers, on the other hand. will be a difficult man to replace so readily. (Controversial statement mode off)
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