Brisbane City started better backlines than that regularly during the NRC.
Reds vs Brumbies - Rd 5, 2015
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Tony Shaw (54)
In the Reds Team announcement Media Release, O'Connors omission was explained thus:
I've never held a high opinion of him since he withdrew himself with muscle soreness, from 'that' Aus v Samoa game just after it was announced that he would be marking Alesana Tuilangi. So I could be seeing things that aren't there, but I just get the feeling that this could be O'Connor managing his brand to an extent.
Regardless, this could be the most disjointed backs performance we will see all year. A week ago, I thought we had seen the worst!
I've never held a high opinion of him since he withdrew himself with muscle soreness, from 'that' Aus v Samoa game just after it was announced that he would be marking Alesana Tuilangi. So I could be seeing things that aren't there, but I just get the feeling that this could be O'Connor managing his brand to an extent.
Regardless, this could be the most disjointed backs performance we will see all year. A week ago, I thought we had seen the worst!
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Ward Prentice (10)
Went to the Reds training session at Ballymore (gf is going through breast cancer and wanted to meet Quade/Will. Reds management were awesome in organising the session).They all look pretty relaxed for most of the drills but intense in their tackle practise.
Also had an awesome chat with Ed Donaghue.
Also had an awesome chat with Ed Donaghue.
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Andrew Slack (58)
What's that definition of madness? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different resultsYeah I was thinking the same Reg. I assume the only reason they've gone with Frisby at 10, Taps at 15 is to keep the consistency in the halves for what its' worth.
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Charlie Fox (21)
I wouldn't advocate chucking a Prem player at 10 in Super Rugby without some good prep but I reckon there'd have to be a few options at 11, 14 or 15 getting around in the Prems that would be better than having Taps there.
Pity Turner couldn't get up, I thought he was good in his game at 15.
Pity Turner couldn't get up, I thought he was good in his game at 15.
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Dick Tooth (41)
That's a very long and unfair bow to draw IMO.
Questioning his toughness is seriously rough. Only have to look at him dragging himself off the ground with a broken sternum to try and stop Rene Ranger coming at him like a train. If he hasn't been able to put in a proper pre-season and has now strained a calf it would just be stupid to play this week. A strain turns into a tear and suddenly he's out for a month. It's a no win situation.
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Phil Hardcastle (33)
Agreed - I've never seen him shirk the tough stuff and even back in the three amigo days he was always fronting up in defence. I have good memories of him dropping Spies close to the line in a test, as well as that great dump tackle on Victor Matfield. Just examples of where he hasn't just done it, but relished it.
I also don't see how one can question his toughness with that quoted paragraph as evidence. It says right there that he received a "nasty cork" early on in the game yet played out the 80 minutes which resulted in the strain. Plenty of players leave the field for bad corks, though the tough ones will stay on if their team needs them.
I also don't see how one can question his toughness with that quoted paragraph as evidence. It says right there that he received a "nasty cork" early on in the game yet played out the 80 minutes which resulted in the strain. Plenty of players leave the field for bad corks, though the tough ones will stay on if their team needs them.
Kerevi received a cork two weeks ago and is still out.
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Dick Tooth (41)
Saving himself for the NRC? Shameful malingering.
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Tony Shaw (54)
I thought I acknowledged that I may have been drawing a longish bow, but if I didn't make myself clear then yes I understand that's what I was doing. But I never questioned his toughness at all. I was wondering if he was managing his image by not playing in games or positions that will potentially make him look a bit silly.
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If you need to prefix a statement with "I may be drawing a long bow" it might be an indication that the comment is better left not said.
I watched JOC (James O'Connor) go through the warmup before the Force game and then his body language when he was told he wasn't going to play, he was filthy... I think that says more about him then speculation that he withdrew from a Wallaby test because he didn't want to mark the opposition player.
JOC (James O'Connor) is a dick on many levels, but I don't think you can question the blokes willingness to mark up against the opposition, he debut'd in super rugby barely weighing in at 80kgs.
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I watched JOC (James O'Connor) go through the warmup before the Force game and then his body language when he was told he wasn't going to play, he was filthy... I think that says more about him then speculation that he withdrew from a Wallaby test because he didn't want to mark the opposition player.
JOC (James O'Connor) is a dick on many levels, but I don't think you can question the blokes willingness to mark up against the opposition, he debut'd in super rugby barely weighing in at 80kgs.
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John Thornett (49)
He also may not want to make his team look silly by playing in a position he knows he isn't particularly good at (didn't he get quoted earlier this season saying he didn't want to play 10?) or when his body isn't allowing him to perform. That might be my own long bow to draw but maybe he's actually matured a little.
The Samoa test was also literally years ago and I don't remember there ever being anything but rumors about O'Connor's withdrawal - for all we know it could have been a decision from the top to take no chances with one of our most important backs at the time right before going into the 2011 RWC.
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Tony Shaw (54)
Yep, both fair points. I'll cop that. I wasn't trying to be dickish about it, I'm genuinely down about our team at the moment and probably let that cloud my thinking; O'Connor makes an easy scapegoat.
I appreciate your insight into what's been happening at training (EDIT: pregame) TOCC, cheers for that. I feel much better about it!
I appreciate your insight into what's been happening at training (EDIT: pregame) TOCC, cheers for that. I feel much better about it!
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Peter Johnson (47)
For the socially irresponsible Brumbies supporters.........and socially corrupted sadistic but brave Reds supporters....
Looking for somewhere to watch the Aquis Brumbies play the Reds on Saturday 14 March? Why not join our team at the official screening?
WHERE: Galaxy nightclub upstairs at Casino Canberra.
WHEN: Saturday 14 March, from 7pm (kick off 7.40pm)
WHAT: There will be a big screen for watching the game. Casino Canberra will be offering special drinks prices for the event: Brumbies non-travelling players will be there and we would love to have as many fans as possible to join them.
Looking for somewhere to watch the Aquis Brumbies play the Reds on Saturday 14 March? Why not join our team at the official screening?
WHERE: Galaxy nightclub upstairs at Casino Canberra.
WHEN: Saturday 14 March, from 7pm (kick off 7.40pm)
WHAT: There will be a big screen for watching the game. Casino Canberra will be offering special drinks prices for the event: Brumbies non-travelling players will be there and we would love to have as many fans as possible to join them.
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