School sporting scholarships/recruitment

[Choc&blue]

Hey mate, not nonsense was going off this list provided couple weeks ago mind you multiple 1st xv players like isahih sheck not named who are on scholarship


Harry Davies Yr-7
2. Anakin Richardson Yr-10 (Scholarship/Bursary)
3. Villiami Akauola Yr-10 (Scholar)
4. Daniel Muir Yr-4
5. Kupu M Yr-11 (Scholar)
6. Nathan Perkins Yr-9 (Scholar/Bursary)
7. Ash Thomas Yr-7
8. Dylan Simmons Yr-9 (Scholar/Bursary)
9. Harry Whitaker Yr-7
10. Jarryd King Yr-7 (Scholar/Bursary)
11. Bailey R-L Yr-6 (Scholar/Bursary)
12. Keone A-T Yr-7 (Scholar/Bursary)
13. Braith Sloane Yr-11 (Scholar/Bursary)
14. Heamasi Makasini Yr-8 (Scholar/Bursary)
15. Callum Grantham Yr-7 (Scholar/Bursary)

would also like to mention the fact the former Newigtion burser who just left the school offered 6 scholarship to boys on there way out.

one being a boy who actually attended Kings and played in their 15Bs/As

What do you mean “on their way out”? Year 13?

 

[Old School Rugger]

Hey mate, not nonsense was going off this list provided couple weeks ago mind you multiple 1st xv players like isahih sheck not named who are on scholarship


Harry Davies Yr-7
2. Anakin Richardson Yr-10 (Scholarship/Bursary)
3. Villiami Akauola Yr-10 (Scholar)
4. Daniel Muir Yr-4
5. Kupu M Yr-11 (Scholar)
6. Nathan Perkins Yr-9 (Scholar/Bursary)
7. Ash Thomas Yr-7
8. Dylan Simmons Yr-9 (Scholar/Bursary)
9. Harry Whitaker Yr-7
10. Jarryd King Yr-7 (Scholar/Bursary)
11. Bailey R-L Yr-6 (Scholar/Bursary)
12. Keone A-T Yr-7 (Scholar/Bursary)
13. Braith Sloane Yr-11 (Scholar/Bursary)
14. Heamasi Makasini Yr-8 (Scholar/Bursary)
15. Callum Grantham Yr-7 (Scholar/Bursary)

would also like to mention the fact the former Newigtion burser who just left the school offered 6 scholarship to boys on there way out.

one being a boy who actually attended Kings and played in their 15Bs/As

Add in:

Ofa Latu (Yr11)
Tyson Price (Yr12)
Jaxson Price (Yr10)
Owen Nable (Yr8)
Lucas Locke (Yr8)
Taten Rogers (Yr8)
Karepe Faulkner (Yr8)
Tyler May (Yr7)
Alex Lockwood (Yr7)
Jasper Smith (Yr7)

 

[Joker]

So....can anyone name another AAGPS schoolboy who played a schoolboy season and then make his 1st grade NRL debut the very same year?
Who can help?

 

[Rugbynbeers]

What do you mean “on their way out”? Year 13?

the bursar on there way out offered 6 rugby scholarships.

 

[DragonMan]

Name one Newington 1st XV player who is not on a scholarship......
Try to get to a second hand when listing the Barker 1st XV players not on scholarship.......

Ashton Thomas definitely not. He is 4th generation at New. His uncle, grandfather and great grandfather were all Dux and his uncle Peter Thomas in addition to Dux was also Senior Prefect, 1st XV, 1st VIII (two years and won in 87), Captain of Debating, SUO and Athletics colours.

 

[DragonMan]

1. Harry Davies Yr-7
2. Anakin Richardson Yr-10 (Scholarship/Bursary)
3. Villiami Akauola Yr-10 (Scholar)
4. Daniel Muir Yr-4
5. Kupu M Yr-11 (Scholar)
6. Nathan Perkins Yr-9 (Scholar/Bursary)
7. Ash Thomas Yr-7
8. Dylan Simmons Yr-9 (Scholar/Bursary)
9. Harry Whitaker Yr-7
10. Jarryd King Yr-7 (Scholar/Bursary)
11. Bailey R-L Yr-6 (Scholar/Bursary)
12. Keone A-T Yr-7 (Scholar/Bursary)
13. Braith Sloane Yr-11 (Scholar/Bursary)
14. Heamasi Makasini Yr-8 (Scholar/Bursary)
15. Callum Grantham Yr-7 (Scholar/Bursary)

Bailey R is on a genuine indigenous scholarship awarded to him in year 6. He’s one of just a handful of indigenous scholarship boys who play rugby. Most unfortunately leave or are expelled before year 12. This bursary was named after a 4th generation New family who lost their son to suicide. The family choose the recipient not the school.

 

[DragonMan]

Joeys don't dominate underages because they 'attract a large proportion of "rugby kids"'. They dominate, especially from Bs & Cs downwards (not nearly as much in A teams), due to strength in depth, because it's compulsory for every kid to play sport, and every team right down to the Fs & Gs train at least twice a week with a 3rd afternoon playing internal 'colour' competitions.

This is about emphasis on tradition, culture, coaching and identifying those with the right stuff at an early age, not 'rugby kids'. Any number of Joeys 16A, 2nd & 1st XV players started out in B & C teams in U-13s & 14s where their heart, courage, competitiveness and determination were every bit as important as latent talent. As the old saying goes, it's not the dog in the fight, it's the fight in the dog.

I'll grant you that not every school (possibly not any school) has the same devotion to rugby as Joeys. For some, sport is not compulsory and even where it is, they do not train as often, are not as well coached and this along with less depth will make things uneven especially at B & C level and below. But it is vanishingly rare that just one or two players on inducements - scholarship or otherwise - has turned a mediocre GPS 1st XV into a championship side.

I'd be interested to hear what evidence you'd point to supporting the idea the comp would be uneven without scholarships. As another old truism goes, a champion team will always beat a team of champions, not least as those on scholarships often feel it's their divine right to be in the top team and have an individual rather than collective mindset.

For all that, let me reiterate I have no issue with schools offering a rugby scholarship or two each year especially where those kids are from families which could not otherwise afford to have their talents nurtured as they could be at a GPS school, Kurtley Beale for example (even though his was not a rugby scholarship). My major problem is NRL clubs using GPS schools to develop NRL players. It's my firm belief this is detrimental to the rugby culture of those schools and the future of Australian rugby.

I think sport is compulsory at every GPS school (maybe except High). New lowest teams in 13s also train twice a week. Joeys boarding numbers and the fact it is very much a rugby school which attracts rugby kids has a lot to do with it.

 

[Dave Beat]

Ashton Thomas definitely not. He is 4th generation at New. His uncle, grandfather and great grandfather were all Dux and his uncle Peter Thomas in addition to Dux was also Senior Prefect, 1st XV, 1st VIII (two years and won in 87), Captain of Debating, SUO and Athletics colours.

and RJT?

 

[DragonMan]

and RJT?

RJT is the fraternal twin. I think he played 2nds Tennis and 2nd XV. Always living in his brother’s shadow obviously. The only other New boy I know of as versatile as Ash’s uncle was a scholarship boy who was Senior Prefect, Dux, SUO and played 1sts basketball from year 8 and 1st XV from year 10.