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Shute Shield 2018

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Bob Davidson (42)
But why would you want to give the team which has just given away a penalty the ability to be offside? Wouldn't they just stand on the mark and not let the other team take their advantage? There's already too much slowing down of the game IMO.

Yes, I know that's the downside, but the current system just seems unfair.
Rugby is supposed to be a game where both sides can contest every situation (compared to league where scrums and rucks are no longer contestable) and the quick tap just stands out IMO as a situation where one side has no option available.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Yes, I know that's the downside, but the current system just seems unfair.
Rugby is supposed to be a game where both sides can contest every situation (compared to league where scrums and rucks are no longer contestable) and the quick tap just stands out IMO as a situation where one side has no option available.

I see what you mean, but I suspect that the cure would be worse than the disease.

Imagine the ABs if they knew that everytime they conceded a penalty in their own 22 that the referee would stop the game and allow them to get their defence set.:eek:
 
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Yes, I know that's the downside, but the current system just seems unfair.
Rugby is supposed to be a game where both sides can contest every situation (compared to league where scrums and rucks are no longer contestable) and the quick tap just stands out IMO as a situation where one side has no option available.


I feel like referees try to quasi-address this by being very strict about tapping the ball on the mark. Often players go for the tap, essentially on the mark, and the referee will blow the whistle and make them move a few centimeters.

A possible solution would be a 3 second count before the tap can be taken.
 

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David Wilson (68)
Better still, in the red zone, give the defending side time to get back ten metres.

The defending side have already succeeded in slowing the game down by making the referee blow his whistle. Why should they be further rewarded with an even longer period of time to reset their defence?

I have zero sympathy for the offending side in a penalty situation. I'd be giving maximum latitude to the non-offending side.
 

wamberal

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
The defending side have already succeeded in slowing the game down by making the referee blow his whistle. Why should they be further rewarded with an even longer period of time to reset their defence?

I have zero sympathy for the offending side in a penalty situation. I'd be giving maximum latitude to the non-offending side.


I prefer to see both sides given the same "latitude", to put it another way, equality between attack and defence.
 

wamberal

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Meanwhile, back in the real world, Alan Jones has discovered that Gordon is in a bit of bother, and it is all the fault of Rugby Australia, of course.



Nothing to do with some of the poor decisions they have made over the years. This is a club who owned a piece of absolutely prime real estate just across the street from their home ground.


And of course, nothing at all to do with the changing demographic of the district. Once upon a time, I would warrant that there was a potential grandstand full of spectators within walking distance of the ground.


Take a stroll through Chatswood now and try to spot a potential rugby supporter. Or, by the way, try to find a spot in a car park.
 

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David Wilson (68)
Meanwhile, back in the real world, Alan Jones has discovered that Gordon is in a bit of bother, and it is all the fault of Rugby Australia, of course.



Nothing to do with some of the poor decisions they have made over the years. This is a club who owned a piece of absolutely prime real estate just across the street from their home ground.


And of course, nothing at all to do with the changing demographic of the district. Once upon a time, I would warrant that there was a potential grandstand full of spectators within walking distance of the ground.


Take a stroll through Chatswood now and try to spot a potential rugby supporter. Or, by the way, try to find a spot in a car park.

You realise that Chatswood Junior Rugby Club is one of the largest and strongest in northern Sydney?

I actually agree with you in relation to the sale of the rugby club - a very poor management decision, followed by a sequence of poor management decisions by Gordon RFC.

Obviously, Rugby Australia have/had nothing at the micro level to do with the decline of Gordon, They are however, responsible for the general health of the game in Australia - it's actually their charter. The IRFU have completely turned the game around there, despite being the third most popular winter football code and the 2nd most popular contact football code in that country. But of course, nothing that anyone else does could possibly apply to rugby in Australia.
 

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David Wilson (68)
How did Gordon manage to lose their club?
And why did they sell? They make much?

Not sure what the actual deal was, but their club was where developers wanted to build a shopping centre (Mandarin Centre). The shopping centre was built and Gordon were allocated a clubroom which was on the 4th floor and wasn't an attractive place to congregate. Not sure if it even still exists - I'd be surprised if it made any money despite being in the centre of Chatswood (location, location, location)
 

Crashy

Ron Walden (29)
For a start they decided that 2 floors of poker machines in an area where there was a growing demographic / diaspora of those predisposed to said poker machines, would be the best model.
Suffice to say it was a soulless place where no-one wanted to go.
plus some misappropriation of funds, the whereabouts no one knows, certain directors personally paying hundreds of thousands to keep the club going and not being repaid, plus, plus......
 

wamberal

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
It is a bloody awful place. Sad. I am old enough to remember the old clubhouse. It was wonderful. Had a squash court, IIRC.

Did they employ Fijian footballers as bar staff so that they could strengthen their first grade team, back in the days of shamateurism?

I do remember the days when visiting teams would always choose to run towards the north in the second half if they won the toss. The northern end of the ground was always packed with Gordon supporters, we used to reckon that it was worth a couple of tries to the Highlanders if they ran towards them in the second half.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
It is a bloody awful place. Sad. I am old enough to remember the old clubhouse. It was wonderful. Had a squash court, IIRC.

Did they employ Fijian footballers as bar staff so that they could strengthen their first grade team, back in the days of shamateurism?

I do remember the days when visiting teams would always choose to run towards the north in the second half if they won the toss. The northern end of the ground was always packed with Gordon supporters, we used to reckon that it was worth a couple of tries to the Highlanders if they ran towards them in the second half.
2 squash courts iirc
 

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David Wilson (68)
Results from today:

Warringah 24 def Wests 11
Souths 23 def Norths 10
Manly 45 def Gordon 17
Eastwood 32 def Uni 29

Parramatta v Randwick twilight fixture at Lidcombe Oval
 
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