Super Rugby Oz Reds v Brumbies

[Red Runner]

Sunday afternoon at Ballymore

Reds named;

1 Aidan Ross (vc) – Bond University
2 Theo Fourie - Brothers
3 Massimo De Lutiis - Wests
4 Connor Vest - Souths
5 Seru Uru - Souths
6 Hamish Muller - Brothers
7 Tom Robinson – University of Queensland
8 Joe Brial – University of Queensland
9 Kalani Thomas – University of Queensland
10 Harry McLaughlin-Phillips - Wests
11 Heremaia Murray – Bond University
12 Dre Pakeho - Brothers
13 Isaac Henry - Wests
14 Tim Ryan - Brothers
15 Jock Campbell (c) – University of Queensland
Reserves
16 Zac Hough – University of Queensland
17 George Blake – Bond University
18 Sef Fa'agase - Sunnybank
19 Charlie Brosnan - Brothers
20 Kohan Herbert - Souths
21 James Martens - GPS
22 Will Cartwright - Brothers
23 Xavier Rubens - Souths

Seems light on scrumhalves...

 

[Slim 293]

Sunday September 14 3:00pm AEST – Reds v Brumbies at Ballymore Stadium, Brisbane, ad-free, live and on demand on Stan Sport

REDS (1-15): Aidan Ross, Theo Fourie, Massimo De Lutiis, Conor Vest, Seru Uru, Tom Robinson, Joe Brial, Hamish Muller, Kalani Thomas, Harry mcLaughlin-Philips, Heremaia Murray, Dre Pakeho, Isaac Henry, Tim Ryan, Jock Campbell (c)

Replacements: Zac Hough, George Blake, Sef Fa'agase, Charlie Brosnan, Kohan Herbert, James Martens, Will Cartwright, Xavier Rubens

BRUMBIES (1-15): Lington Ieli, Liam Bowron, Rhys Van Nek, Lachlan Shaw, Harvey Cordukes, Toby Macpherson, Luke Reimer (c), Judah Saumaisue, Klayton Thorn, Declan Meredith, Ollie Sapsford, Jarrah McLeod, Hudson Creighton, Kadin Pritchard, Louis Bartley-Saena

Replacements: Chris Mickelson, Tauati Chan-Tung, Tevita Alatini, Tuaina Taii Tualima, Rory Scott, Dan Nelson, Joe Dillon, David Feliuai

 

[Brumby Runner]

De Lutiis head to head against Ieli. The battle of the young bulls.

 

[Uh huh]

From where Australian rugby has been for most of the past 20 years, to having two front rows of that quality sitting outside the Wallabies squad, is a hell of a turn-around.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Sunday afternoon at Ballymore

Reds named;

1 Aidan Ross (vc) – Bond University
2 Theo Fourie - Brothers
3 Massimo De Lutiis - Wests
4 Connor Vest - Souths
5 Seru Uru - Souths
6 Hamish Muller - Brothers
7 Tom Robinson – University of Queensland
8 Joe Brial – University of Queensland
9 Kalani Thomas – University of Queensland
10 Harry McLaughlin-Phillips - Wests
11 Heremaia Murray – Bond University
12 Dre Pakeho - Brothers
13 Isaac Henry - Wests
14 Tim Ryan - Brothers
15 Jock Campbell (c) – University of Queensland
Reserves
16 Zac Hough – University of Queensland
17 George Blake – Bond University
18 Sef Fa'agase - Sunnybank
19 Charlie Brosnan - Brothers
20 Kohan Herbert - Souths
21 James Martens - GPS
22 Will Cartwright - Brothers
23 Xavier Rubens - Souths

Seems light on scrumhalves...

Kalani by the end of last season was showing he's Super Rugby starting calibre 9 and then the bench 9 is straight from the Aus 20s and looked really good. Seems the right way to be structuring it. Werchon is still in the system as well but getting pro experience elsewhere for now. May give another guy a shot throughout the comp as well.

 

[Uh huh]

Kalani by the end of last season was showing he's Super Rugby starting calibre 9 and then the bench 9 is straight from the Aus 20s and looked really good. Seems the right way to be structuring it. Werchon is still in the system as well but getting pro experience elsewhere for now. May give another guy a shot throughout the comp as well.

In comparison, Thorn has been consistently disappointing with the opportunities he's had so far. Harrison Goddard is quite a significant loss for the Brumbies.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

I guess this comp gives them the chance to let him improve through exposure to a higher level or start to blood Nelson who looks a very neat 9.

 

[Wilson]

Kalani by the end of last season was showing he's Super Rugby starting calibre 9 and then the bench 9 is straight from the Aus 20s and looked really good. Seems the right way to be structuring it. Werchon is still in the system as well but getting pro experience elsewhere for now. May give another guy a shot throughout the comp as well.

I think that 'seems light' was probably a joke - Cartwright is also traditionally a 9 (was the bench halfback for the Reds against Wales last year), even though he's been spending more time on the wing lately.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Apologies for the misread. Have no idea who Cartwight is. Probably a smart move given the amount of 9s around if you can do it and have the ability to play 9 still.

It's quickly becoming a position of depth around the country. 19s will have a few gems as. Blank for NSW has a lot to like and I think a lot of teams will be watching the 18s 9 (Angus Grover) who's back from last year.

How things can swing quickly in a position. You have the current Wallaby group who are doing well. Next tier or Kalani and Teddy then all these young guys coming through.

 

[Adam84]

Didn’t realise James Martens was son of former Springbok, Hentie Martens

 

[liquor box]

Kalani by the end of last season was showing he's Super Rugby starting calibre 9 and then the bench 9 is straight from the Aus 20s and looked really good. Seems the right way to be structuring it. Werchon is still in the system as well but getting pro experience elsewhere for now. May give another guy a shot throughout the comp as well.

I realise this will be sacrilege to say as a Reds fan, but with McDermott being arguably the best finishing 9 in world rugby do the Reds consider Kalani to start and McDermott to come off the bench next year?

I am equally happy for McDermott to start but if he is so valuable against tired test match players, surely, he could be expected to carve up against lower quality players at the end of a Super Rugby game if he had equally fresh legs as he does in Tests.

 

[Red Runner]

Kalani is still no where near Tate’s level in my books. This has been his best year but still far from a polished product.

 

[Wilson]

I realise this will be sacrilege to say as a Reds fan, but with McDermott being arguably the best finishing 9 in world rugby do the Reds consider Kalani to start and McDermott to come off the bench next year?

I am equally happy for McDermott to start but if he is so valuable against tired test match players, surely, he could be expected to carve up against lower quality players at the end of a Super Rugby game if he had equally fresh legs as he does in Tests.

We'll might see this occasionally as a horses for courses selection or as part of load management for Tate, but he's capable of imposing himself across from the jump in super matches to the level he does form the bench so I can't see it being the plan for more than a couple of games. Just look at the Force game in Perth or the Hurricanes game in Brisbane, you don't want to limit that impact too much. He'll almost certainly spend a few games rested again though, giving Kalani and Werchon/Martens their chances.

 

[Adam84]

I realise this will be sacrilege to say as a Reds fan, but with McDermott being arguably the best finishing 9 in world rugby do the Reds consider Kalani to start and McDermott to come off the bench next year?

I am equally happy for McDermott to start but if he is so valuable against tired test match players, surely, he could be expected to carve up against lower quality players at the end of a Super Rugby game if he had equally fresh legs as he does in Tests.

I think Kalani's skillset has improved and is pretty well rounded. I don't love his game management, though.
Maybe it's because he is reguarly coming off the bench, trying too hard, but I just feel the speed/tempo he tries to play at, the passes he is pushing doesn't reflect the rest of the team or the defensive team's line speed. This is one area Tate actually excels at comparatively.

That been said, whilst Tate performs better off the bench then Kalani, i also think Tate performs better starting then Kalani.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

I realise this will be sacrilege to say as a Reds fan, but with McDermott being arguably the best finishing 9 in world rugby do the Reds consider Kalani to start and McDermott to come off the bench next year?

I am equally happy for McDermott to start but if he is so valuable against tired test match players, surely, he could be expected to carve up against lower quality players at the end of a Super Rugby game if he had equally fresh legs as he does in Tests.

IF he plays next season the way he finished the last, by the end of the season there will be more people calling for the same set up as the Wallabies witht he X factor Tate has. That all depends on Kalani killing it though and Tate being somewhat quiter which I don't see happening.

Gives the Reds a good option should an opportunity arise to give Tate a rest though.

 

[Brumby Runner]

Tate's a busy man this weekend. Test match against Argentina on Saturday and judging from the references here turning out again on Sunday.

 

[WoodysRFC]

I see the Waratahs v Force is available on YouTube, any word on if this one will be the same?

 

[Spamnoodle]

I see the Waratahs v Force is available on YouTube, any word on if this one will be the same?

All these games are.

 

[PhilClinton]

This hasn't been advertised very well.

Also unfortunate timing with it clashing with the Broncos v Raiders NRL Finals game at 4pm on Sunday.

Will be interesting to see crowd and viewership numbers.

 

[hawko07]

This hasn't been advertised very well.

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