Sydney Subbies 2016
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Allen Oxlade (6)
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Allen Oxlade (6)
Shame. BOBS not looking great for years to come with Barker Rugby numbers down and also lacking success in recent years. Will they drop down to 3rd division next year, or remain in 2nds for another?
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Frank Nicholson (4)
How did they [BOBS] make 2015 1st grade final
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Ozzie Bob
Charlie Fox (21)
I don't think we will be given the choice. Beecorft looking very strong and should push up
Ozzie Bob
Charlie Fox (21)
10 players from the grand final never came back this year. It has been a tough year I will grant you that, a lot of things have gone badly this year
rugbyking2
Allen Oxlade (6)
Hopefully the proposed 3 grades and colts in 3rd division should benefit you next year then. Provided you have a good off-season of course.
Ozzie Bob
Charlie Fox (21)
All these things go in cycles. In 2001-2004 we were struggling to hang onto 3rd div status. We had a long term president and a very passionate committee. In 2005 we were pushed up to div 2 after coming second in the club champs to Epping. 2006 we made the first grade GF (Got belted in the wet by Beecroft) and won the club champs and were pushed up to 1st div. 2007 was a tough year playing against the big boys and were pushed back to Div 2 in 2008. 2008 was the magic year winning 1st, 2nd and colts grand finals. 2009 saw us back up and win 1st grade again. 2010 saw us win clubs champs but lose the 1st grade grand final in extra time to Kings. We lasted 2 years in Div 1 , with 2011 being our best year in the top grade. Ever since coming down in 2013 it has been tough, our older premiership players have since moved on and at the moment player numbers are down. ALL old boys clubs are struggling (Pats, Knox, Bobs, Iggies, Kings and Grammar old boys are no more).
I do admire Waverley for their success this year. I think their last year in Div 2 was 2010, and in the past they had been a Kentwell powerhouse. It has taken time but they turned it around. The signs are promising that Bobs will have a better year next year. I won't bore you with the details of this year as I'm in London and only hearing things 3rd hand!
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
That's a hell of a ride! Hope 2017 is a stable one 
Redfield Old Boys appear to be doing alright
Redfield Old Boys appear to be doing alright
Ozzie Bob
Charlie Fox (21)
That's a hell of a ride! Hope 2017 is a stable one
Good call on Redfield, they are flying the flag for old boys clubs!
I do wonder if subbies will make a call on Newport going down a grade. They have been through this before. I can almost see Div 3 being split into 2 divisions like div 6 was last season!
Redfield Old Boys appear to be doing alright
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
Tricky.
What would suit us ideally, with the changes I'm planning for the club, is for Fifth Division to reappear. I'm pretty sure we can stick with Three Grades, but a safety net might be nice...
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
Wow. That would be a hell of a logistical effort - finding a ground as Prodigy says, but also the training aspect.
One of the challenges for a lot of clubs is changing demographic, and players no longer living within cooee of their training facilities, which is often their home ground.
I seem to remember Kings OB having training in Glebe but game day out at the school? Maybe something like that has to be worked out.
One of the challenges for a lot of clubs is changing demographic, and players no longer living within cooee of their training facilities, which is often their home ground.
I seem to remember Kings OB having training in Glebe but game day out at the school? Maybe something like that has to be worked out.
Tommy Tudehope
Ted Fahey (11)
I hope it takes off. It is a sad decline for Iggies and KoBs but we need new innovative solutions for the declining player base.
Yeah that's what KOBs do.
Location issues are there, for sure. It's probably the biggest obstacle. As I said, no idea how discussions are going (or if they've even happened), but with a few clubs struggling it might be the only solution.
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Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
The player numbers we're seeing are pretty stable, but we have the advantage of being one of those areas where population growth - of people who might play rugby - is OK.
And I'm taking into account the numbers we're going to jettison after the judiciary tonight
I think there is a fair bit of weight in also pointing out the volunteer base issue, for many similar reasons: people have less time to dedicate to a Saturday, and if they're not playing or getting some sort of gratification out of it, then some people won't front up to support in some cases.
Sometimes you get a long-term volunteer who has had enough and no-one has been there to take over - that is one big planning thing a lot of clubs miss as they just try to get teams on the field.
rugbyking2
Allen Oxlade (6)
A small part of Waverley's success I believe, is attributed to their club going back to its roots and generating player interest right out of school. Over the past 3 years they have had increased Old Boys playing in their colts side, with upwards of 30 players looking for a game each week in this team.
Are the other Old Boy clubs doing this or have they gone away from their traditional breeding ground so to speak? Even just acquiring 5-10 boys straight of out school can be considered a success. The boys who played 1st and 2nd XV will more than likely try and play for a premiership side however targeting 3rd and 4th XV players should be a goal, and this is what Waverley have done.
Are the other Old Boy clubs doing this or have they gone away from their traditional breeding ground so to speak? Even just acquiring 5-10 boys straight of out school can be considered a success. The boys who played 1st and 2nd XV will more than likely try and play for a premiership side however targeting 3rd and 4th XV players should be a goal, and this is what Waverley have done.
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