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Sydney Subbies 2025

Pfitzy

Phil Waugh (73)
the sorry we’re full method, that’ll work for the 35 old whose played 10 years with a club and wants to phase out into the lower grades.

Have another comp for O35 (4th Grade) and O45 (5th Grade) if that's what clubs can suppot - like Hexagon. If they want to phase out, they're probably a social player anyway.

Or keep the bar where it is. That has worked swimmingly.
 

sterlingmortlocksgloves

Sydney Middleton (9)
Have another comp for O35 (4th Grade) and O45 (5th Grade) if that's what clubs can suppot - like Hexagon. If they want to phase out, they're probably a social player anyway.

Or keep the bar where it is. That has worked swimmingly.
So the suggestion would be Div 1 3 grades (most clubs field a 5s bar Drummoyne and Newport). Majority of those blokes are either social first year out of colts blokes and the weekend warriors getting away from corporate life and shipping them off where? Can’t image many blokes would be keen on the idea of being told you need to go for a 60 minute drive to the next club who can’t field 2 grades to fill in numbers.
 

pnut

Syd Malcolm (24)
Have another comp for O35 (4th Grade) and O45 (5th Grade) if that's what clubs can suppot - like Hexagon. If they want to phase out, they're probably a social player anyway.

Or keep the bar where it is. That has worked swimmingly.
Subbies is social isn’t that the point?
 

Odyssey_Park the 2nd

Billy Sheehan (19)
So the suggestion would be Div 1 3 grades (most clubs field a 5s bar Drummoyne and Newport). Majority of those blokes are either social first year out of colts blokes and the weekend warriors getting away from corporate life and shipping them off where? Can’t image many blokes would be keen on the idea of being told you need to go for a 60 minute drive to the next club who can’t field 2 grades to fill in numbers.
The discussion was around what is sustainable and also allow movement between divisions. A number of clubs can field 5 grades and colts and good in them and ideally 1st Division would reflect this . But that number is getting smaller and smaller by the year. Most clubs can only field 2-3 grades regularly. How then do you allow clubs at the bottom of Division 1 transfer out with the clubs at the top of Division 2.

What happens like we are seeing in the lower Divisions when Div 1 only has 5-6 teams capable of competing? Is that competition viable long term?

Running a rugby club is cyclical, what clubs at the top forget is that it doesn’t last forever. The belief that all the clubs in Div 1 will always have 5 grades and players to compete at that level is laughable.
 

Pfitzy

Phil Waugh (73)
Subbies AGM November 24th.

There's a Special General Meeting beforehand to clean up a few items in the Constution - mostly administrative to implement some best practice measures for the makeup of Board, Judiciary, and Appeals. There's some specifics about adopting neutral language and creating more representation for women on the Board, and a couple to bring things into line with the Union's status as a not-for-profit and the Associations Incorporation Act.
 

Odyssey_Park the 2nd

Billy Sheehan (19)
Subbies AGM November 24th.

There's a Special General Meeting beforehand to clean up a few items in the Constution - mostly administrative to implement some best practice measures for the makeup of Board, Judiciary, and Appeals. There's some specifics about adopting neutral language and creating more representation for women on the Board, and a couple to bring things into line with the Union's status as a not-for-profit and the Associations Incorporation Act.
It won’t happen but I’d love to see Subbies with a plan for Div 1 by the AGM and Div 2 by Christmas. The rest of the divisions can be outlined by end of January.
This doesn’t lock anyone into a position and clubs would have to prove by end of February they have the numbers etc to meet their grading or risk being demoted or promoted if numbers are OK.
But this doesn’t leave us sitting on our hands till mid March trying to figure out divisions and draws. This would give us something to work/plan with. We can’t leave it till March to be working things out again.
 
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