Mate. I thought it was CLEARLY forward. As a wallabies supporter I was completely fine it got called back. The only thing I want world rugby to learn is their linesman have their eyes painted on when it comes to adjudicating fwd passes and the offside line.
Wallabies v Fiji, Sunday, 6 July, 1:30pm @ McDonald Jones Stadium, Newcastle
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Jim Lenehan (48)
It clearly travelled forward, but that's not the test. Was it clearly forward out of the hands? it was hard to say. That's why they had to look at it 7 or 8 times.
Can’t really believe we’re discussing this. It looked forward as fuck live. I was not suprised they had a look at it. The replays didn’t show his hands going backwards so it made sense to overturn it.
What replay showed it going forward out of his hands? We don't have one. We have the normal angle where you couldn't see his hands and the reverse angle which wasn't in line with the play.
I disagree on your last point. It wasn't called forward so the burden of proof should have been in the other direction. There needed to be something conclusive to show it was forward, not proof that it wasn't forward.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Can somebody explain to me WTF we are doing analysing forward on not passes, when the Lions are upon us?
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Larry Dwyer (12)
I did think it was particularly funny that the highlights package on Youtube immediately followed the disallowed forward pass try with a blatant forward pass in the midfield from Fiji that led to their try, uncalled. At some point you've just got to let the 50/50 balls go and stop only dissecting them when they're on the phase that the try is scored on.
My main takeaway from this game was man we missed Bobby V.
I do also think the decision not to boot it out on half time highlighted that the Wallabies were handling this as if it was a preparation/exhibition style game with the Lions up next. It's very rare the Wallabies score 20+ with zero penalties, I think they were approaching it similar to the way the Lions are approaching the state games. The difference is the Fijian national side is a lot better than a super franchise without its wallabies, and that showed.
We'll be alright boys, stay the course, bleed gold and hate Britain. Let's trot.
My main takeaway from this game was man we missed Bobby V.
I do also think the decision not to boot it out on half time highlighted that the Wallabies were handling this as if it was a preparation/exhibition style game with the Lions up next. It's very rare the Wallabies score 20+ with zero penalties, I think they were approaching it similar to the way the Lions are approaching the state games. The difference is the Fijian national side is a lot better than a super franchise without its wallabies, and that showed.
We'll be alright boys, stay the course, bleed gold and hate Britain. Let's trot.
Well both passes left to right from Tom wright were deemed forward. Bit of an issue we if we want him to ball play that side of the field.
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John Eales (66)
It’s pertinent because if that try had stood the Wallabies probably would have won by 20 instead of 3.
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David Wilson (68)
Couldn't agree more Major, seems a weakness that he not comfortable passing to right. There a couple look uncomfortable going to the right.
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Larry Dwyer (12)
When does the Wallabies squad for the Lions game get announced?
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
Friday apparently
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Dave Cowper (27)
I thought there was quite a bit to like in that first half. The players catch/pass has improved drastically over the Schmidt era. Also decision making on when to make the pass and sticking defenders. Little tip ons from the piggies has come along as well.
They obviously didn't show too much in this match. I suspect they'll be much more direct v the Lions and use JAS a bit more with high balls. His dummy runs do hold defenders nicely. Creating plenty of space for others.
I thought the back row were good, locks generally good. The locks looked to get through a heap of work. Frost isn't a powerful ball carrier but he was physical in defense and hit rucks, did a job at the linout. Tate definitely better coming on later in the game. White was pretty good at controlling the game when he came on. Noah was ok. Just missing a fair bit between the ears at times. Seems to get flustered and frustrated, you can see a brain part in coming. Centres were good. Did their job. Wingers played well. Jorgo looking sharp ball in hand. Potter certainly looking at home. Wright was a bit disappointing, mainly because we know what he is capable of.
Front row were fine. I've never understood what anyone sees in Poreki. Sorry to see his injury nonetheless.
Gleeson stood up and carried very well. Hooper is class as well. They'll be fighting for a bench spot. I suspect LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) will be called in. He is great for 20/30 off the bench.
Wobs need a rush/fast defensive line against the Lions. They will rip us to shreds and just walk over the gain line if we defend like that. Argies, safas and NZ have shown how to disrupt the Irish attacking system. Slow drift defense ain't it. The need to use a combination.
Wobs need to be more direct in attack for that wide attacking game to come off. A big more carrying power with Bobby V, Skelton, LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) should make that a bit better. Nice hands at to contact should get them moving forwards before unleashing. Get behind that D line then look to unleash what is actually a very sharp backline.
Lastly Fiji are a farken good team. And the kind of team which gets under the wobs skin. Well done getting the win but much improvement needed before the first test.
Go you good thing.
Wallabies 3 Lions 0.
They obviously didn't show too much in this match. I suspect they'll be much more direct v the Lions and use JAS a bit more with high balls. His dummy runs do hold defenders nicely. Creating plenty of space for others.
I thought the back row were good, locks generally good. The locks looked to get through a heap of work. Frost isn't a powerful ball carrier but he was physical in defense and hit rucks, did a job at the linout. Tate definitely better coming on later in the game. White was pretty good at controlling the game when he came on. Noah was ok. Just missing a fair bit between the ears at times. Seems to get flustered and frustrated, you can see a brain part in coming. Centres were good. Did their job. Wingers played well. Jorgo looking sharp ball in hand. Potter certainly looking at home. Wright was a bit disappointing, mainly because we know what he is capable of.
Front row were fine. I've never understood what anyone sees in Poreki. Sorry to see his injury nonetheless.
Gleeson stood up and carried very well. Hooper is class as well. They'll be fighting for a bench spot. I suspect LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) will be called in. He is great for 20/30 off the bench.
Wobs need a rush/fast defensive line against the Lions. They will rip us to shreds and just walk over the gain line if we defend like that. Argies, safas and NZ have shown how to disrupt the Irish attacking system. Slow drift defense ain't it. The need to use a combination.
Wobs need to be more direct in attack for that wide attacking game to come off. A big more carrying power with Bobby V, Skelton, LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) should make that a bit better. Nice hands at to contact should get them moving forwards before unleashing. Get behind that D line then look to unleash what is actually a very sharp backline.
Lastly Fiji are a farken good team. And the kind of team which gets under the wobs skin. Well done getting the win but much improvement needed before the first test.
Go you good thing.
Wallabies 3 Lions 0.
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Colin Windon (37)
Just because the reverse angle wasn't in line with play doesn't mean you can't use that footage to assess the hands - makes it more difficult but not impossible.