Waratahs 2010
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Greg Davis (50)
went to the ccc waratah collection launch party yesterday!
phil and al baxter modelled the new jerseys, robbie horne and ben mowen the supporters jersey.
basically you can buy a player replica, which is the shiny material and identical to the players ones. its all light blue except the ccc collar thing is dark blue. the panel under the arm that the wallabies have is just dark blue piping around the outside and there is no piping on the front.
the away jersey is the same as last year hooped polo shirt, it basically has white sleeves and the body has a dark blue a white and a tah blue hoop.
the supporters jerseys are the same except they have normal collars and are made of cotton.
some nice stuff in the way of there street wear range as well, CCC lady said during the course of the contract between them they would like to turn the waratah into a brand and have a large range of gym, casual and street clothing which sounds good to me!
fun day, Phil said he still plans on playing in the world cup, i asked were he ranks himself and he said third, so he only has to injure one person and he is in!
phil and al baxter modelled the new jerseys, robbie horne and ben mowen the supporters jersey.
basically you can buy a player replica, which is the shiny material and identical to the players ones. its all light blue except the ccc collar thing is dark blue. the panel under the arm that the wallabies have is just dark blue piping around the outside and there is no piping on the front.
the away jersey is the same as last year hooped polo shirt, it basically has white sleeves and the body has a dark blue a white and a tah blue hoop.
the supporters jerseys are the same except they have normal collars and are made of cotton.
some nice stuff in the way of there street wear range as well, CCC lady said during the course of the contract between them they would like to turn the waratah into a brand and have a large range of gym, casual and street clothing which sounds good to me!
fun day, Phil said he still plans on playing in the world cup, i asked were he ranks himself and he said third, so he only has to injure one person and he is in!
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
baxter looked good!
he wouldnt comment on getting an apology from paddy, but i told him i wouldnt give up the fight for him!
he wouldnt comment on getting an apology from paddy, but i told him i wouldnt give up the fight for him!
eddo
Larry Dwyer (12)
Agreed the stripes must be very... what's the word.. Forgiving.. ha
Baxter almost looks like he could make a move to our ever shrinking back row.
Kit looks good. But how do the numbers work on the back of the alternate?
I saw the Forces new kit (somehow through ISC still ????) anyway.. their alternate is a little weird - going to be a bitch when they play the bulls and blues.
Baxter almost looks like he could make a move to our ever shrinking back row.
Kit looks good. But how do the numbers work on the back of the alternate?
I saw the Forces new kit (somehow through ISC still ????) anyway.. their alternate is a little weird - going to be a bitch when they play the bulls and blues.
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NTA said:
Wise words from a prop
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
Heed my words oh ye portly gentlemen 
In any case, my starting Tahs team for next year:
1 Fat Cat
2 TPN
3 Baxter
4 Caldwell
5 Mumm
6 Mowen
7 Waugh (c)
8 Palu
9 Burgess
10 Halangahu
11 Anesi
12 Barnes
13 Horne
14 Mitchell
15 Turner
16 Freier
17 Palmer (Kepu will have to prove himself as a THP)
18 Roodt
19 Coridas
20 Holmes
21 Sidey
22 Beale
That's according to the list I found at waratahs.com.au - we seem to be a bit short on centres according to that list? :nta:
In any case, my starting Tahs team for next year:
1 Fat Cat
2 TPN
3 Baxter
4 Caldwell
5 Mumm
6 Mowen
7 Waugh (c)
8 Palu
9 Burgess
10 Halangahu
11 Anesi
12 Barnes
13 Horne
14 Mitchell
15 Turner
16 Freier
17 Palmer (Kepu will have to prove himself as a THP)
18 Roodt
19 Coridas
20 Holmes
21 Sidey
22 Beale
That's according to the list I found at waratahs.com.au - we seem to be a bit short on centres according to that list? :nta:
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
no way beale isnt in the starting side, barnes to 10, beale at 12 or 15, hangers on the bench or if beale is at the back then at 12.
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
waratahjesus said:
Beale is a bit flaky even with the Wallaby tour under his belt. Let Halangahu give the Tahs a solid opening game with his kicking from hand, then start turning the 10-man rugby into a more comprehensive game as the season goes on. Halangahu is also a great kicker. Beale to come on in the back 40 or 20 depending how the game is going.
aussie1st said:
See above. I also want Barnes running one wider like he did for QLD where his defense was rock solid and his options as a second kicker can be better used. I also don't like the depth Barnes plays with at 10. He stands back 10m to kick for example. While he has a better passing game than Halangahu, if you stand him close in for the second channel, he can distribute from there without being too far from his forwards.
Seb V said:
Nope
Henry said:
Besides the fact that the crashball centre concept is as dead as last week's mutton, no.
14 is traditionally blindside winger who is half-wing, half-fullback. Mitchell fits that bill. Anesi should be given a roaming commission to inject his pace wherever its needed. and bob up anywhere from first receiver out.
Lee Grant
John Eales (66)
I don't know who Hickey will play where but it may be an academic exercise since Barnes is crocked so often. I liked the way the Tahs played in the RSA at the end of last season with Hangers at 10 and KB (Kurtley Beale) at 12, but it is inconceivable that Barnes will not start somewhere.
Hickey will realise that he owes loyalty to Hangers who turned down a contract for $440K a year from Ulster to sign up for another year at the Tahs, on the understanding that if he tied down the 10 spot by the end of the 2010 S14, he would sign on for another gig. The Barnes acquisition happened after that but that was for only one year with an option. Hickey may have both Hangers and Barnes for 2011 - or neither.
Beale will turn 21 a month from now and it is about the time that we should be judging him as a senior player rather than somebody who was shoved into a S14 flyhalf position on the veldt a few weeks after leaving school. With the certain demotion of Carter, Beale could play 12 outside Barnes at 10, with Hangers twisting in the wind again - but it could be how NTA has it, with KB (Kurtley Beale) on the bench.
Forget about Beale on the wing because he isn't fast enough to play there. He is quick off the mark and good for a 20M burst as most 10s and 12s are, but that's about it. He could get away with playing 15 as he did for the Oz U/20 team before he did a hammy, and you could point out that he is faster than Hewat was, but you really want a fullback who can roof the ball up high and chase it fast in the modern game.
If Barnes is picked at 10 I trust that he won't be allowed to play too deep as he tends to do when he plays flyhalf. The disadvantages are obvious. And whoever plays where, I want our guys to have a go with ball in hand when it is on. Without the Carter firewall there should be no excuses. I have seen every home Waratahs game in the professional era at the ground but for a couple of family weddings I was dragged screaming to and I have never been so bored with the Tahs as this year, and I have seen some shockers.
If Hickey can't get that going with the forwards we have we should get somebody else for 2010.
As for the forwards: There won't be too many Oz outfits who are stronger provided Caldwell has recovered from his debilitating illness. They look a bit spoiled for choice in the front row and the only place they don't have specialist depth is at 7 - that is, if Dud Roodt is any good as a lock.
By contrast there is only one specialist 13 - Robbie Horne - and if he goes down it will another hammy injury it will be interesting. Sidey did well in the games I saw him play in the Magners League, but he is really a 12. For 2011 they should try to recruit a 13 and discard a 6, option but it could be a nonsense as the roster landscape could be have changed a lot in the next 7-8 months.
One thing for sure: they need a specialist goal kicker. Neither Barnes, Halangahu, Beale nor Turner are elite goal kickers and the best one in the Tahs stable, Adam D'Arcy; is just in the the professional academy.
I have updated the Tahs list of players in the next post since the official Tahs website left Daisy Dennis off their list. I have aded him and the "Last Year" details which give the final year of a player's contract - taking into account additional info from Noddy.
Noddy - I have kept Freier's "Last year" as is because of this link:
http://aru.rugby.com.au/news/wallabies_2008/adam_freier_commits_to_australian_rugby_till_2010,92250.html
Hickey will realise that he owes loyalty to Hangers who turned down a contract for $440K a year from Ulster to sign up for another year at the Tahs, on the understanding that if he tied down the 10 spot by the end of the 2010 S14, he would sign on for another gig. The Barnes acquisition happened after that but that was for only one year with an option. Hickey may have both Hangers and Barnes for 2011 - or neither.
Beale will turn 21 a month from now and it is about the time that we should be judging him as a senior player rather than somebody who was shoved into a S14 flyhalf position on the veldt a few weeks after leaving school. With the certain demotion of Carter, Beale could play 12 outside Barnes at 10, with Hangers twisting in the wind again - but it could be how NTA has it, with KB (Kurtley Beale) on the bench.
Forget about Beale on the wing because he isn't fast enough to play there. He is quick off the mark and good for a 20M burst as most 10s and 12s are, but that's about it. He could get away with playing 15 as he did for the Oz U/20 team before he did a hammy, and you could point out that he is faster than Hewat was, but you really want a fullback who can roof the ball up high and chase it fast in the modern game.
If Barnes is picked at 10 I trust that he won't be allowed to play too deep as he tends to do when he plays flyhalf. The disadvantages are obvious. And whoever plays where, I want our guys to have a go with ball in hand when it is on. Without the Carter firewall there should be no excuses. I have seen every home Waratahs game in the professional era at the ground but for a couple of family weddings I was dragged screaming to and I have never been so bored with the Tahs as this year, and I have seen some shockers.
If Hickey can't get that going with the forwards we have we should get somebody else for 2010.
As for the forwards: There won't be too many Oz outfits who are stronger provided Caldwell has recovered from his debilitating illness. They look a bit spoiled for choice in the front row and the only place they don't have specialist depth is at 7 - that is, if Dud Roodt is any good as a lock.
By contrast there is only one specialist 13 - Robbie Horne - and if he goes down it will another hammy injury it will be interesting. Sidey did well in the games I saw him play in the Magners League, but he is really a 12. For 2011 they should try to recruit a 13 and discard a 6, option but it could be a nonsense as the roster landscape could be have changed a lot in the next 7-8 months.
One thing for sure: they need a specialist goal kicker. Neither Barnes, Halangahu, Beale nor Turner are elite goal kickers and the best one in the Tahs stable, Adam D'Arcy; is just in the the professional academy.
I have updated the Tahs list of players in the next post since the official Tahs website left Daisy Dennis off their list. I have aded him and the "Last Year" details which give the final year of a player's contract - taking into account additional info from Noddy.
Noddy - I have kept Freier's "Last year" as is because of this link:
http://aru.rugby.com.au/news/wallabies_2008/adam_freier_commits_to_australian_rugby_till_2010,92250.html
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