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Waratahs Target Jake White

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Andrew Slack (58)
Interested to know what people here think.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...et-former-springboks-coach-20100328-r58m.html

Waratahs target former Springboks coach
GREG GROWDEN
March 29, 2010

EXCLUSIVE

SOUTH AFRICA'S World Cup-winning coach Jake White is in big demand in Australia, with the Waratahs and the Western Force interested in his services.

The Herald understands that White, who guided the Springboks to their 2007 World Cup success, was recently approached by several Waratahs team officials over whether he would be interested in a director of rugby role at NSW.

However, the Waratahs are not the only Australian team pursuing White, with the Force looking at him as a possible replacement for head coach John Mitchell, who has decided not to seek reappointment when his current term expires at the end of next year.

It is believed Mitchell is being head-hunted for a provincial coaching position in South Africa.

The Force are eager to have a high-profile coach as Mitchell's successor in 2012, and it is understood White may be interested in relocating from South Africa to Perth.

If not, then Sydney could be a very strong option. The Herald has been told that at least two NSW officials were recently in contact with White, with coaching on the agenda. It is believed a director of rugby position at the Waratahs was discussed with White, and that position would not involve taking over Chris Hickey's head coaching role, but instead working above him.

Around the same time, another Waratahs team official is understood to have sounded out Springboks second-rower Victor Matfield about joining the NSW coaching panel from 2012. The 32-year-old Matfield recently admitted to the Herald that he was interested in pursuing a coaching career once his playing days were over, which is likely to coincide with next year's World Cup tournament.

''I will probably have a look in coaching. Maybe with coaching overseas,'' Matfield said.

While Matfield intimately knows the Australian scene, so too does White, who between 2004-07 devised ways to beat the Wallabies at Test level - where his Springboks line-up won six of their 11 internationals against Australia.

His overall record for the Springboks was 36 wins from 54 Tests.

White is also a close ally of former Wallabies coach Eddie Jones. Jones, who attended a Waratahs training session at the Sydney Football Stadium last week, was White's assistant during South Africa's successful 2007 World Cup campaign.

Although the White/Matfield development comes on top of recent speculation Michael Cheika - until he signed with Stade Francais last week - and Michael Foley were in line to be the next Waratahs coach, the NSWRU is adamant Hickey is safe until his contract expires at the end of next year. NSWRU chairman Ed Zemancheff said last week there were no plans to replace Hickey next season.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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We can't afford him, but if it came with the Tahs being separated form the NSWRU it would be positive.
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
with the force trying to forge ties with south africa i would think he is a better fit over there. But it would depend in Tahland what exactlyt he director of rugby job would do and who it would be accountable to for him to succeed at anything,
 

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Andrew Slack (58)
waratahjesus said:
with the force trying to forge ties with south africa

What does that mean?

They have no SA players, no SA coaches, and some local SA fans.

Or is there other "forging" going on?
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
Blue said:
waratahjesus said:
with the force trying to forge ties with south africa

What does that mean?

They have no SA players, no SA coaches, and some local SA fans.

Or is there other "forging" going on?

there was an article at the start of the season on the back of pretorius signing with them that they were trying to forge closer ties with the south african teams and was a reason they did there trials over there and were looking towards using south africa as a development ground. It was due to the large south african contingent living in perth (in the article not my personal opinon blue, consult the census website for further facts) and a few other things, i will try to find it for you.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Just how large is the Saffa population on Perth? I suspect it is less than many imagine.
 
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PhucNgo

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Biffo said:
Just how large is the Saffa population on Perth? I suspect it is less than many imagine.

Oh no. This is starting to sound like Kiwis in Bondi all over again.
 

Reddy!

Bob Davidson (42)
Jake White? The Tahs are already reknown for playing boring rugby as it is (historically, they are playing good rugby at the moment). They don't need White coming in and a traditional SA game plan put in place. No thanks mam.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
PhucNgo said:
Biffo said:
Just how large is the Saffa population on Perth? I suspect it is less than many imagine.

Oh no. This is starting to sound like Kiwis in Bondi all over again.

:) Nah, this is very different.

I'd be very surprised if the resident saffas exceeded 5% of Perth's population. There'd be no discussion on whether kiwis are 5% of Bondi's population.

I'd be quite sure that kiwis outnumbered saffas in WA as a whole.
 
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daz

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Biffo said:
PhucNgo said:
Biffo said:
Just how large is the Saffa population on Perth? I suspect it is less than many imagine.

Oh no. This is starting to sound like Kiwis in Bondi all over again.

:) Nah, this is very different.

I'd be very surprised if the resident saffas exceeded 5% of Perth's population. There'd be no discussion on whether kiwis are 5% of Bondi's population.

I'd be quite sure that kiwis outnumbered saffas in WA as a whole.

Wait until the Poms play the Wallabies in Perth in June. That will sadly show you quite clearly who has the highest population percentage... :'(
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
cant find the exact data, but did find on the census website that perth/west australia has had the largest decline of fertility in the last twenty years. Fellas over there arnt just not getting the job done on the field.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
Reddy! said:
Jake White? The Tahs are already reknown for playing boring rugby as it is (historically, they are playing good rugby at the moment). They don't need White coming in and a traditional SA game plan put in place. No thanks mam.

Well Reddy based on the rugby the Boks played under White I can't blame you for having that opinion. But let me just point out that I believe JW instilled the kind of game plan he did because of two factors: 1. the rules 2. the players at his disposal and their individual and combined strengths. He coached a plan, backing himself, and hell, he got the results.

Now prior to Jake getting the Bok gig, everyone was asking how without any real top flight head coaching experience he could be the bok coach? He was the Bok assistant coach and technical advisor under Mallet. After that he did a lot to implement coaching structures around the country, and became a technical advisor, "coache's coach." He sold the powers that be on a plan to win the World Cup. He got the job on that.

Jake ran a TV program for years way before the Bok gig where he picked teams apart. It's the best technical analysis I ever saw on TV. I remember in the days of the Brumbies winning the S14 him being asked why the SA teams couldn't play like that and his answer was that we did not have the players who had the skills at the time, nor did he believe at the time the coaching to pull it off.

Big game experience, excellent technical skills, meticulous planning, and a man manager par excellence.

Dissing him because we won the RWC with no tries is selling the man way short.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
waratahjesus said:
cant find the exact data, but did find on the census website that perth/west australia has had the largest decline of fertility in the last twenty years. Fellas over there arnt just not getting the job done on the field.

It's not important.

Jake White being on the Force or Tahs radar has nothing to do with his nationality.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Blue

All that about Jake rings true.

As one good judge mentioned recently on another thread:

Jake's teams weren't too expansive were they, but they were building for a RWC then with the players they had then and the way Saffer Super teams played then - give or take - and with the way they were refereed then. But put him in charge of a S14 team these days with the way they are refereed now and the way they have changed, and I'm sure that he would work out what style of rugby would work these days and be able to implement it. He's a winner.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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1,602,559 Total so 17628 South Africans in perth.And about 160000 Poms!
 

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Andrew Slack (58)
Sully said:
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1,602,559 Total so 17628 South Africans in perth.And about 160000 Poms!

Sully I love your sig.

I would love to stick that, and many other quotes on a huge mother of a bilboard outside of that twat Jones' house.

PS That's a lot less Saffers in Perth than I thought.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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I get his newsletter he really does have it in for everything that is Rugby south of the equater. He does seem to love the traveling though.

Less Saffers but a lot more Englishmen than I thought. We need to send them some of our Kiwi though.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Saffers maybe support rugby well in Perthfontein the reason. Saw some Swanepoel with a soutie name playing for one of your teams. One of these days you'll have some Boer Bulls over there.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Blue said:
PS That's a lot less Saffers in Perth than I thought.

Doesn't surprise me at all. I read a couple of years back that the greatest migration from RSA to Australia in one year was less than 6,000. Even at that limit for 20 years, there's not so many about.

"Perthfontein" pushers - WITHDRAW, NOW :angryfire:
 
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