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Sydney Subbies 2022

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
OK so Div 4 McLean Cup this weekend - some wet weather to catch up on:

Mac Uni v Renegades - we're down a few in both grades and the Mac Uni Fijians look pretty strong in First Grade. If we got up it would be a heck of an effort given I'm probably starting ;)

Chatswood v Saints - could be a good, fast match with the weather forecast to bake Beauchamp dry. Saints will have their Colts up at Wakehurst at the same time 2s kick off.

Looking ahead there are no wet weather weekends left with Rounds 13 and 14 to play, and the following games to catch up:

Redfield v Saints - both grades to play, and getting a midweeker going will be tough according to both clubs.
Harbour v Saints - First Grade only - I think a midweek game at Woollahra similar to Iggies v Quins could work, but Saints in particular will be looking at trying to make 2 games as well as their scheduled matches against HAC (@ Saints) and Raptors (@ Raptors) and thinking that is a lot of minutes.

Mac Uni v Raptors - First Grade only. Another midweeker that could challenge the scheduling.
 

Doritos Day

Johnnie Wallace (23)
Keep the pitch reports coming EC.

I will give my assessment of Boronia in a couple of weeks.
 
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Eastcoast

Larry Dwyer (12)
Still bitter about that loss hey? Appreciate you letting us live rent free in your mind for this long.
Whenever you lose a GF it stings - luckily we have had success since. Not sure Forest have
If my home ground was Boronia Park I wouldn't be talking about anyone else's ground.
Boronia is better than most of the fields in Div 1 - Drummoyne is the obvious standout. Our cricket pitch isnt a mess like others though.
Keep the pitch reports coming EC.

I will give my assessment of Boronia in a couple of weeks.
Come find me on the far side of the field for a beer.
 

Eastcoast

Larry Dwyer (12)
Considering no one else does Div 2 ill have a crack - Based off what I have seen. there will be 4 cricket scores tomorrow.
Newport - 50
HV - 40
Hills - 80
Lindfield - 60

Harlequins - Beecroft - Could be a good game pending who turns up for both sides. Is Pennant Hills oval in any decent shape?
 

oldmate11

Herbert Moran (7)
Div 2 Round 12

Beecroft v Sydney Harlequins - Should be a good game I reckon, the boys from Waterloo will be favourites for sure but anything can happen at home with a couple of weeks rest. Quins by 7

Old Ignatians v Lindfield - Only gets harder for Iggies after a midweek flogging, a season to forget for them. Hopefully they can recoup player numbers in a lower division. Lindfield need to start proving they can hang with the top three come finals time. Need a dominant performance here. Lindfield by 50

Newport v Briars - Newport will be too strong at home. Tough run home for Briars. Newport 35+

Old Barker v Hawkesbury Valley - Valley go on a trip and get the job done here. Valley by 20

Hills v Blacktown - Credit to Blacktown for turning up this season and putting themselves on the line. That being said, Hills by a lot.
 

Waterloo_Ned

Herbert Moran (7)
We are at Pennant Hills Park tomorrow for a few must win games. Beecroft have forfeited 3s which keeps us in touching distance of UNSW and Epping.

In 2s, the winner of Quinns/Beecroft moves into outright 6th, while In 1s a win tomorrow can also see us 2-3 points outside 6 and with Barker trembling in both grades (having already forfeited tomorrow), we would be in a good position to make a play for 6th spot.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Another big day tomorrow - heading to Ryde Park to referee Blunt Cup and then over to Mac Uni to see if we can wrestle ourselves into outright sixth place in both grades... at least temporarily!
 

Mangoman

Allen Oxlade (6)
We are at Pennant Hills Park tomorrow for a few must win games. Beecroft have forfeited 3s which keeps us in touching distance of UNSW and Epping.

In 2s, the winner of Quinns/Beecroft moves into outright 6th, while In 1s a win tomorrow can also see us 2-3 points outside 6 and with Barker trembling in both grades (having already forfeited tomorrow), we would be in a good position to make a play for 6th spot.
Surely Barker forfeiting 2nds again has to push them out of Div 2 next season...
 

WoodyWoodsman

Sydney Middleton (9)
Surely Barker forfeiting 2nds again has to push them out of Div 2 next season...
The week to week drop outs have been horrendous across the board this year. Teams just aren’t fronting up away from home.
Some teams should be disqualified from finals due to the number of forfeited away games.
Subbies aren’t taking away points for forfeits so there are no repercussions for abandoning a game you don’t feel like showing up for.
 

Thephantom

Frank Row (1)
Why was HV allowed to score over 100 against Blacktown?!

Yes, I get it it that its a game, and there are no mercy rules in Subbies - but what benefit is there to smash Blacktown and rub their noses even further?!

The ref should have called stumps when the scoreline difference was around 70/ 80 - and not let it get to over three figures. Wouldn't all bonus points be accrued earlier?

That result will not help Blacktown at all, and may be a catalyst for them to forfeit some (or all) remaining matches this season...
Bit of a late reply but the game was called off with ten minutes to go the valley captain asked Blacktown multiple times if they wanted to call it off but they wanted to continue
The game they versed iggies was also called off with 21 minutes to go at 79-0
 

Doritos Day

Johnnie Wallace (23)
The week to week drop outs have been horrendous across the board this year. Teams just aren’t fronting up away from home.
Some teams should be disqualified from finals due to the number of forfeited away games.
Subbies aren’t taking away points for forfeits so there are no repercussions for abandoning a game you don’t feel like showing up for.
Gee hasn't it been a couple of seasons to forget, first COVID ending proceedings early in 2021 and now this year has just had zero flow with the rain

Can't be good for participation long term.
 

Denistone_Dennis

Chris McKivat (8)
Hoping things will stabilise next year. As you said, rain has been terrible this year + everyone is taking their international holidays after 2 years of being locked up.

Mosman has gone from having 7 Grade teams + 3 colts teams last year to 5 grade + Halligans + 2 colts and there have been blokes backing up to fill the lower grades
Heard the Mosman boys have had to revert from Dom Perignon to Veuve. Tragic.
 

oldmate11

Herbert Moran (7)
Watched the Beecroft v Harlequins game today and it turned out to be a great encounter. Harlequins had a significant size advantage over the younger Beecroft pack but were undone by costly errors in attack. Beecroft created some great long range tries orchestrated by their number 23 (played colts and first grade today) who looked dominant with ball in hand during the first half. There were some huge hits throughout the game with the Harlequins 15 getting smashed into next week off a kick return, hope he’s all good. 2nd grade game was abandoned due to a serious injury to an eastern suburbs colt towards the end of the colts fixture, wish him a speedy recovery.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
2nd grade game was abandoned due to a serious injury to an eastern suburbs colt towards the end of the colts fixture, wish him a speedy recovery.

Agreed. Another serious injury :( besides the rain, COVID, and overseas holidays, it isn't a great base for recruitment and retention when you see those sorts of things.

Harlequins 2nd Grade now have ?3? fixtures to make up? Iggies, Barker (well...), and now Beecroft. Sheesh.
 
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WoodyWoodsman

Sydney Middleton (9)
My spies at Marsfield yesterday say a good day of rugby for the Rams lower graders. Hawkesbury Valley fulfilling their commitment and playing away from the rest of their club...... And they do this because they are good blokes. Word is the halfback has let himself go a little bit, but a fantastic game of rugby, played in (mostly) the right spirit. Rams 4s played a Halligans against Mosman again, when Newport couldn't make the journey..... but played a Halligans at home.
Renegades vs Mac Uni in a catch up game at Mac Uni yesterday. Big win for Renegades 2s as they continue their march towards the finals. First grade was a seesawing affair and as much as the Renegades would like to blame the referee for their late game failure, it was probably more down to some poor decision making in the dying moments of the game. The 15 has a super boot. I hope he can stick around because he is a big asset to that team.
Two spectators of interest at Mac Uni yesterday were two of the Rams' coaches. Seen standing with the Renegades, offering advice to the coaches and support staff. Seems strange given the matchup next round. Maybe they were scouting, maybe there was more to it.
 
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Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Big win for Renegades 2s as they continue their march towards the finals.

Not so sure about that, looking ahead at the last two rounds.

Chatswood had a good win over Saints to keep them ahead of us after their win at the Field Of Dreams last week.
They're in outright 6th right now on 25 with 4 wins.
The Staggies have R13 v Harbour at Beauchamp which would be a tough ask, and R14 @ Mac Uni - I'd back them to take the second one with BP.
That puts them on at least 30.

Meanwhile, we're on 23 points with 3 wins - effectively 7th with no Canterbury there.
Yesterday, Mac Uni started with 12 and we were 12 points up by the time they got to 14. Later in the game they had a red card and we put another 12 points on. So part of that win was numbers.
R13 is at Sommerville where Epping are planning a big day. That means plenty of reserves to test us and see if they can better their 52-5 result from R2. They won't want to slip up because they can take the minor premiership with a win over Merrylands the week after. Expecting a torrid time.
R14 we're at home to Savers, and we're planning a big day for that so hopefully the numbers are good and we can jag a win. Need to get to at least 31 to get ahead of Chatswood IMHO, and that means 2 wins at least, or a very good draw and Chatswood losing... hmmmm...
 
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