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Australian Rugby / RA

hoggy

Trevor Allan (34)

Not sure where the original article came from. But courtesy of John Murray, former Easts President.

My thoughts - 18 would be a bridge too far. It's interesting to see the numerical breakdown. Though, it's probably an over-simplistic analysis.
Its clearly a vision statement, but you could start with say 6 or 8 teams.

The sad thing is we can't have a genuine discussion about it, its dismissed as fancyland straight away. So lets stick with Super Rugby which has delivered exactly what over the last 20 years???
 

Samson

Chris McKivat (8)
It is hard to put your faith in an administration that is still running "where there's a Wallaby there's a way with Eddie saying how he likes to prove dad's wrong." Saw it today on million-dollar hot seat. Something has to change.
 

Goosestep

Syd Malcolm (24)
It is hard to put your faith in an administration that is still running "where there's a Wallaby there's a way with Eddie saying how he likes to prove dad's wrong." Saw it today on million-dollar hot seat. Something has to change.
I’ll give you that .. Australian Rugby has always had cringy marketing
 

dru

Tim Horan (67)
The John Murray proposal is fantasy. But is it actually particularly more fanciful than the current RA plans? At least his desired outcome heads the right direction.

SRU have done more damage to the code in Aus than most but they are not the cause of the dumpster fire we are sitting in. That is all RA.

And now apparently, with no detail of any plan being articulated, they will apparently drop serious funding via benefactors into the Hail Mary policy of NRL stars to boost Super. At the Roulette table doing poorly, one last-ditch attempt, plough all remaining chips onto red 6.

What could possibly go wrong with that?
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Its clearly a vision statement, but you could start with say 6 or 8 teams.

The sad thing is we can't have a genuine discussion about it, it’s dismissed as fancyland straight away. So let’s stick with Super Rugby which has delivered exactly what over the last 20 years???

Of course we can have a genuine discussion about it, but that proposal was just… dumb.
 

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
Re the league signings, it seems that at least they are going for players who were brought up playing rugby - presumably that will come into the marketing i.e. they were 'ours' anyway. I'm not condoning the strategy but I am least going to keep an open mind about it as there seems very little else that can work within the window of opportunity coming up aside from performing on the field. If it does work, they then have to do the right thing with the moolah.
 

hoggy

Trevor Allan (34)
Of course we can have a genuine discussion about it, but that proposal was just… dumb.
Clearly you have to have a vision of where you want to end up at.

Why was it so dumb, two other sporting codes are achieving that exact outcome now.

I am always amazed with Australian rugby that wants to measure its success by essentially being the best in the world, yet mention a domestic club competition and all of sudden its "pie in the sky stuff"
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Clearly you have to have a vision of where you want to end up at.

Why was it so dumb, two other sporting codes are achieving that exact outcome now.

I am always amazed with Australian rugby that wants to measure its success by essentially being the best in the world, yet mention a domestic club competition and all of sudden its "pie in the sky stuff"

Is this a serious question?
 

hoggy

Trevor Allan (34)
Is this a serious question?
Sorry, just wishful thinking.
Lets just employ another $million dollar coach, expand Super rugby around the world, have American & Asian conferences, actually why not get a Japanese Team involved base them in Singapore and get them to play South African teams, Fuck Yeah that'll be awesome.

And then with the 47 people left playing the game here, introduce a Tiered elite coaching structure, And then when were best in the world you watch all those Sherrins & Steedens get thrown away.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Sorry, just wishful thinking.
Lets just employ another $million dollar coach, expand Super rugby around the world, have American & Asian conferences, actually why not get a Japanese Team involved base them in Singapore and get them to play South African teams, Fuck Yeah that'll be awesome.

And then with the 47 people left playing the game here, introduce a Tiered elite coaching structure, And then when we’re best in the world you watch all those Sherrins & Steedens get thrown away.

I’ll take that as a no…
 

John S

Chilla Wilson (44)
just as I thought .. you’ve got nothing …
If you've been here more than a minute, Slim has been pretty vocal for ages about this stuff, most of it ignored/ridiculed etc by various posters.

I can see why he's poking fun at dumb ideas that are not new and been around the traps for ages - just search for the where to for super rugby.

It's always interesting watching people come out of the woodwork when the Wallabies are in crisis, and start saying stuff a lot of us smarter then me have been saying for years as if it's a brand new revelation.

Of course the head honchos at RA have designed to ignore us
 

Tomikin

Simon Poidevin (60)
I'll throw an idea out there. Let's have a competition with unpredictably of outcome, that has an Australian Final with Australian Champion..

Wanna get fans in let's have a chance of actually fucking winning something.. play it as part of super pacific... then have the two top Australian teams play off for a cup..week after Super Pacific Final.
 

hoggy

Trevor Allan (34)
If you've been here more than a minute, Slim has been pretty vocal for ages about this stuff, most of it ignored/ridiculed etc by various posters.

I can see why he's poking fun at dumb ideas that are not new and been around the traps for ages - just search for the where to for super rugby.

It's always interesting watching people come out of the woodwork when the Wallabies are in crisis, and start saying stuff a lot of us smarter then me have been saying for years as if it's a brand new revelation.

Of course the head honchos at Rugby Australia have designed to ignore us
Have you ever asked yourself why the head honchos at RA have never bothered to listen to any of us.

I've posted many times on "Where to for Super Rugby" and guess what around we go again next year.

I've read John Murrays article a couple times now, Fanciful, dumb call it what you want, but "Where to for Super Rugby" how many posts now. Maybe we need a few more people coming out of the woodwork because lets face it they haven't been listening to any of us.
 
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Rebel man

Jim Lenehan (48)
It's funny, Gill McLachlan is also very much the old boy tie-wearing type. But his track record at the AFL is pretty enviable. I guess it's easier to grow the professional game when your grassroots is rock-solid.
Grass roots have a lot of issues in footy just got a great cut through with fans keeping the money coming in
 
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