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Julia's Reign

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David Codey (61)
Bowside said:
Keating v bush in question time would be a slaughter. When is came to debating keating was a class above.

He gave some pretty decent speeches as well. The redfern address being the most famous.

I think we have the best voting system in the world. And I think educating the population is far more worthwhile than only having the educated vote. It has other benefits for the country as well.

I also think freedom is a relative thing. Other western countries may have more 'freedom' than we have, but I dont think that is always a good thing. I'm damn glad we dont have the 'freedom' to readily purchase automatic weapons or the 'freedom' to pay unreasonable amounts of money for health insurance.
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We are about to have freedom to pay more health insurance or get taxed more if we don't want it!
 
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David Codey (61)
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Missed my point. He deserves to be represented but if he chooses, why should he have to vote if he doesn't want to?
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Exactly. And it doesn't necessarily follow that just because mr numbnuts doesn't follow politics that he won't vote or his neighbor won't vote in a non-compulsory system.
 
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David Codey (61)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you are asked to do jury duty it is pretty easy to get out of it.

It is easier to get out of jury duty than voting!
 
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Bill McLean (32)
Bill is a scary smart guy. He served 9 years as a Senator, why should his pension be different just because he got in and out as a youngster as opposed to some fogue in his 50's?
 
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
have a look at this
two of the graphs show the enormous spike in industrial disputes under Labor....who has dismantled workchoices thereby, so the spin goes, reducing the need for workers to challenge their working conditions by withdrawing labour.
I know nothing about the unfairness of workchoices so I am not defending it I'm just observing that despite the ALPs long term claim to keeping the industrial peace better than the Libs the evidence suggests otherwise.
 
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David Codey (61)
I think it is generally agreed that workchoices went one step too far, and also that fair work act has gone one step too far the other way.

IS, I couldn't see the graphs though?
 
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David Codey (61)
Karl said:
Bill is a scary smart guy. He served 9 years as a Senator, why should his pension be different just because he got in and out as a youngster as opposed to some fogue in his 50's?
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Are you serious?

The obvious difference is that he gets it for 20 years longer, therefore it is another million dollars of tax payers money.

Why should politicians be treated differently to everyone else in regards to pensions? Why do they get pensions for the rest of their life for doing nothing, or not being restricted to work in any way?
 
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Scotty said:
I think it is generally agreed that workchoices went one step too far, and also that fair work act has gone one step too far the other way.

IS, I couldn't see the graphs though?
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Dave Cowper (27)
I am surprised that mining is so high and construction so low. I would have thought it to be the other way aound. Though I presume that 'working days' lost is due to industrial action and not other causes?
 
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David Codey (61)
Sorry, didn't realise the 'this' was a link.

Yes already joined up to Business Spectator. For some reason they stopped sending me emails, but kept sending me the climate spectator ones!
 
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David Codey (61)
It seems the anecdotal evidence I was hearing about when Rudd was elected in 2007 was correct. A lot of guys I know that were working in the larger construction firms complained that as soon as Labor took power, the unions significantly stepped up their activity, because they knew they wouldn't be touched. To me it is an advertisement for a lot of what is wrong with the Labor party, and who really runs it.
 
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David Codey (61)
Gillard has just announced that Bob Carr will be foreign minister. Strange after she said during the week that it was 'totally untrue' that he had been approached by her for the job. Why make a comment like that if you are actually considering doing just that?

I also find it strange that an unelected person can come straight into a front bench role on a salary of something like $300 k +.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...take-foreign-affairs-role-20120302-1u731.html
 
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
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Gillard has just announced that Bob Carr will be foreign minister. Strange after she said during the week that it was 'totally untrue' that he had been approached by her for the job. Why make a comment like that if you are actually considering doing just that?

I also find it strange that an unelected person can come straight into a front bench role on a salary of something like $300 k +.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...take-foreign-affairs-role-20120302-1u731.html
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Its very odd - Smith and Crean (big supporters of hers) both wanted the job and Smith has some claim to it having stepped aside for Rudd when they should have shafted him to the bank bench.
I think there may be more unrest in the ALP as a result of this.
i dont think they pull down as much as that do they? Anyway dont forget the pension he gets from NSW for royally F***ing the joint up!
 
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David Codey (61)
Yep, pretty sure with the recent pay rises the front benchers are on around 300k.

Of course the foreign minister would add many $$ in perks to that.
 
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John Solomon (38)
Funny, it seems to me that Bob Carr is just a wrinkly version of Kevin Rudd in some ways - an intellectual guy who carefully cultivated a public persona, and ran a government driven always by commanding the news cycle first, with good policy a distant second. Obsessed with the US in the same way Rudd is fascinated with China.

I assume Gillard wants to show she's in control, by choosing Carr, but she's not going to be calming down the rest of the party.
 
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