Welsh by birth. They're used to it. As for the pay thing, it's the lifetime bonuses that shit me the most. Serve 8 years as a back bencher and they pay you like you've retired from 40 years with the same company! Driver, super, golden handshake. There were also moves to make their expense accounts a matter of public record which they tried to block in the Senate. So maybe they're getting in at the trough while they can, will reduce the claims in the public domain, and meantime will pocket more guaranteed. That way they don't need to worry about hanging onto receipts ----------------------- I hate autocorrect .