CAS Rugby 2012

[It is what it is]

I believe Kotobalavu came on as a substitute in yesterdays game (please correct me if im wrong).. Marais has definitely earned his CAS 1st jersey, as for Mee I would not know

Agree that Marais can play and is an excellent athletic jumper. CAS !st's Centres are ordinary, but that won't be a problem in attack with the back 3 selected.

 

[Done that]

they are majority year 12s in both teams its bad because its not giving year 11s this year experience for next year

My understanding is that most of the Trinity team will be there next year .
Exceptions include Clunies Ross , Morsello , & Orr.

 

[rtd32]

It's strange to think that if Knox had only beaten Aloys they would be tied second at the moment.

 

[Sydney's finest]

I agree with Monday tipster forwards in the firsts look strong and I don't know how they picked the backs Ross (T) and Flaherty (B) should not be in the 1sts I'm unsure on Creely even if he played NGS he has been injured and hasn't looked sharp in their loss to aloys , would of liked to see haltimeier (B) Farley (W) Cuppit Osborne (W) Davis (B)

 

[ontop]

pederson (B) over Orr (T) i agree with many is very questionable, along with Mee (C) over Malaki (T), i suspect over the next weeks or so we will see changes, delorenzo(C) not even making the reserves list was a bit of a shock to me, strange seeing williams(A) on the flank and the 8 fay(C) is just weird.. i thought moala(T) could have had it over him.
all i know is that that seconds coach will be cheering

 

[The Chosen]

I agree with Monday tipster forwards in the firsts look strong and I don't know how they picked the backs Ross (T) and Flaherty (B) should not be in the 1sts I'm unsure on Creely even if he played NGS he has been injured and hasn't looked sharp in their loss to aloys , would of liked to see haltimeier (B) Farley (W) Cuppit Osborne (W) Davis (B)

Creely was injured for both Barker & Waverley games. Against Trinity he came off with 10 minutes to go but had been instrumental in the large win. Against Aloys he scored 2 tries, the 2nd with impressive fend-off and his tackling was top-rate. Didn't see him play yesterday but I note he scored another 2 tries. I would consider he is playing better than last year when IIRR he made NSW 2nds.

 

[International Badboy]

Creeley/Flaherty wont match it With Tepai/Stewart or Tepai/Milne

 

[Snort]

Overall, I think the teams are pretty fair. Orr and Tiamalu-Afele could maybe feel a little hard done by not to be in the Firsts, but there are three games and they have the chance to make their case on Thursday. I'd have had Clunies-Ross at 15, with Paterson 14, but that's just tinkering. Haltmeier was unlucky, I thought, to be left out altogether.

 

[kiwi playing in Oz]

Sheer madness not to have Cameron Orr and Malaki Afele in the 1st XV!

 

[Peace keeper]

Sheer madness not to have Cameron Orr and Malaki Afele in the 1st XV!

I could say the same about morsello

 

[Newbie]

Creeley/Flaherty wont match it With Tepai/Stewart or Tepai/Milne

You can throw Foketi into that group as well! All five just seem to be Way too strong in every aspect of the game!

The CAS lads will need to rise to the occasion! And rugby history is pervaded with such instances! Go the underdogs!!!!

 

[rtd32]

Sheer madness not to have Cameron Orr and Malaki Afele in the 1st XV!

yeh, lets have a trinity dominant team.. they have proved to be the best so far this season with 5 from 5 wins, and a heaps good for and against!!! I honestly can't believe this sort of stuff is being said, putting down other players who are well capable of playing at CAS 1st level .. we're not the selectors, and the people who are paid to be (because they actually know what they're doing and aren't biased) disagree with what you may think... Lets try not to criticise the selection of CAS 1s, considering it consists of an extremely talented bunch of players, and there are plenty more opportunities for others to prove themselves.. Haltmeier not to even make the squad is strange and may be disappointing, but this happens, he should not feel too disheartened, as he is still an exceptional player and the spot of winger was heavily contested by a number of standout players this year... As for comments on Flaherty, just because you may not have heard of him before now, it does not make him any worse of a player.. He played Barker 2's last year (as to why he was only in 2nds is beyond me, as he was a standout every game and never got a run in firsts). The fact he has come from there to make CAS 1's is an outstanding achievement that should be congratulated, not put down because people in their unprofessional and biased minds think he isn't capable. On thursday i doubt people will be saying that Flaherty doesn't deserve to be in CAS 1's, nor any other player in this team

 

[Fairpoint]

Trinity aren't dominating the selections what so ever, they have been hard done by in my opinion. Representing only 3 positions in the 1sts team is a good achievement but expectation would have been much higher. Ofcourse a selector will focus on the better teams but when it comes to selections would you choose the better players who are motivated to compete hard or choose the second best player who will go through the motions with no real spark to their game? I think there are a lot of question marks above people's heads in the 1sts.

 

[HiTh]

this forum is ridiculous, at the start of the year majority of people were saying trinity are unbackable favourites, and will win CAS. Now half way through the season, and trinity have dropped 2 games, and were extremely lucky not to have dropped another one against waverley, and yet all the talk is still about them. Barker are clearly the best performing team in CAS. You should all get a life, and stop sucking up to Trinity, because clearly its not working, look at the CAS table or the team selections. Nothing against Trinity but this forum is a joke

 

[Fairpoint]

That's all against trinity HiTh... This forums for explaining why each team may or not be performing, ofcourse a whitewash of trinitys team last year would give anticipation to everyone for a 2nd year, the players are still there and no one understands why... THAT'S WHY there are still discussions about it.

 

[rtd32]

Trinity aren't dominating the selections what so ever, they have been hard done by in my opinion. Representing only 3 positions in the 1sts team is a good achievement but expectation would have been much higher. Ofcourse a selector will focus on the better teams but when it comes to selections would you choose the better players who are motivated to compete hard or choose the second best player who will go through the motions with no real spark to their game? I think there are a lot of question marks above people's heads in the 1sts.

perhaps I would pick the player who performs better in a team?.. How can you argue that trinity has more (as in a larger amount of) talented individual players when they don't perform?.. Here's my point, lets say your right, and for some reason they have a greater number of talented individuals, rugby is a team sport, and selectors will be looking for the players that play better in a team.. that is, they play their given role as they should, they are organised and structured in the way they play, they rarely make mistakes in performing the tasks required of them, and finally, they compliment the flaws of the other talented players around them. Don't bother giving me a lecture on how a team can be losing and s till consist of good players, sure, but clearly not as good as the team who beat them, that is why Barker contribute the most players, Waverly and Trinity are evenly contributing with 3 each, which is quite a substantial amount, 20% of their sides is seen to be the best CAS has to offer, that should hardly be contested or rebuked

 

[kiwi playing in Oz]

yeh, lets have a trinity dominant team.. they have proved to be the best so far this season with 5 from 5 wins, and a heaps good for and against!!! I honestly can't believe this sort of stuff is being said, putting down other players who are well capable of playing at CAS 1st level .. we're not the selectors, and the people who are paid to be (because they actually know what they're doing and aren't biased) disagree with what you may think... Lets try not to criticise the selection of CAS 1s, considering it consists of an extremely talented bunch of players, and there are plenty more opportunities for others to prove themselves.. Haltmeier not to even make the squad is strange and may be disappointing, but this happens, he should not feel too disheartened, as he is still an exceptional player and the spot of winger was heavily contested by a number of standout players this year... As for comments on Flaherty, just because you may not have heard of him before now, it does not make him any worse of a player.. He played Barker 2's last year (as to why he was only in 2nds is beyond me, as he was a standout every game and never got a run in firsts). The fact he has come from there to make CAS 1's is an outstanding achievement that should be congratulated, not put down because people in their unprofessional and biased minds think he isn't capable. On thursday i doubt people will be saying that Flaherty doesn't deserve to be in CAS 1's, nor any other player in this team

Sorry for having an opinion. I am in no way involved with CAS my comments are based on watching the mentioned boys playing club rugby since they were 13 yr olds! They are classy and quality players and I hope they prove the selectors wrong in not choosing them for their first team.
And to HiTH boo hoo if you don't like what's said in this forum don't bloody read it! I back Trinity cos I know some of the boys so get over it mate

 

[onthewatch]

surprised B Whicker from trinity did not make cas either that of Waves hooker, not sure of his name and also the centres for cranbrook and there winger Dileronzo and barkers winger Haltimater

 

[rtd32]

Sorry for having an opinion. I am in no way involved with CAS my comments are based on watching the mentioned boys playing club rugby since they were 13 yr olds! They are classy and quality players and I hope they prove the selectors wrong in not choosing them for their first team.
And to HiTH boo hoo if you don't like what's said in this forum don't bloody read it! I back Trinity cos I know some of the boys so get over it mate

All the more reason why you are susceptible to bias.. you've watched them from 13, probably meaning you know them on a personal level, and therefore as I doubt you've seen a substantial amount of any other team (or at least i doubt you've been following every CAS side since they were 13), the void, being your lack of knowledge of other players abilities is being filled with "oh they don't deserve to be there", "this trinity player is better because I've seen him play for this long and he's just been off form this year", its no excuse to put down another player who is perfectly capable of playing in that position.. It's strange how little complaints heard about a Waverly boy that supposedly deserves to be there, because from what I've seen the whole CAS team should practically just be Trinity. I have seen complaints of people from trinity not making CAS 1s in the following postions: 1,2,4,8,9,12 when there are already players from trinity in 3,10,14.. Sure voice your opinion, thats what this forum is for, but don't put people down in the process, and back your opinion with some valid evidence (ie they performed better against the other player, they are better in defence which is a quality that this side needs, they are more suited to this position because of ...). Simply stating "they don't deserve to be there" is more a personal attack than a valid argument, no matter what your intended reasoning is.. If wants to dispute a decision on this list try avoiding offensive tones and connotations, and perhaps wait to see how they perform on thursday? By all means then tell me how a trinity player is better suited to the position

 

[Cubesquare]

Regarding the Trinity players selections, the argument for "this player is a great individual player but doesn't mix with the team" is wrong. Sure you may think trinity have been an overrated side this year as the results have proven, but individual ability does play a role. The current CAS team sounds like a decent team with a few selections up for debate, consisting of predominantly barker, and trinity and waverly. Yet, come the game vs GPS, CAS has no chance in the world, because they are missing the individuals who can turn the game. I believe the selectors have gone for a conservative pick, not selecting Cameron Orr, Malaki Afele and Ola Moala. No matter how I see it, I don't see Pederson, Marais or even Williams making a dominant impact upon the game. I suspect the selectors to be guilty of going for a team balancing equal commitment of the schools involved minus barker who deserved it, or selecting a pack that is fundamentally sound, yet lacking individual brilliance of which the GPS side will be full of both. Considering this is a first year for the majority of the CAS selectors, I wouldn't be surprised, but hopefully they will realize soon what they require to match the fundamentally sound, yet extraordinarily explosive GPS team.