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Waratahs 2013

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Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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On the skills comments, one thing I found very interesting was that Chieka was trying to break player habits of catching a ball that was not in front of them. He said players had to trust the passer who may be throwing a long ball to someone else. If it was just a poor pass they would have to scramble back and secure possession. This also put pressure on the passing player to be more accurate.

This came off the comment that too often last year overlaps were ruined by forwards out of position in the backline getting in the way.

A throwback to the Randwick Running Rugby Ghosts of old. Wally Meagher and Col Windon et al would be happy.

How often have we seen a dufus piggy try to catch a pass not meant for them?
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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At least sudrugby said "could" and not "would".

If he is going to the Top 14 the Waratahs and Wallabies will be affected, as hard bastard tight head locks are rare. Agen is struggling and could use him.

There should be no hint of criticism if he does go: it's not as though he's a born and bred Aussie rugby player who is leaving at age 26 - he didn't arrive in Oz until he was 19, and then he played rugby league.

His Wallabies credentials would have upped his price and since he is a bit of a journeyman already it could have been part of a career plan, and if that is the case good on him.

If he does go I shouldn't be surprised if Lopeti heads over there too. There's another brother, Sione, in Europe who has been with the Scarlets for a couple of seasons.

Maybe the brothers will start their Tongan version of the Tuilagi clan.
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Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
L Timani and McCutcheon both currently injured, might face a backrow crisis pretty early

Qwerty, I am capable of remaining calm in the face of a firestorm but your post has me teetering on the edge! Have you any more info on the nature of those injuries? If they are major and not just minor aches and pains, then:
  1. We are in very deep do-do.
  2. AJ Gilbert is likely to get his second game in Super rugby.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Nothing concrete, just seen L Timani in a knee brace in pics, looks pretty serious... McCutcheon had surgery as well. I'm hoping both will be right for the season start, perhaps LG could update us more?
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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L Timani and McCutcheon both currently injured, might face a backrow crisis pretty early

Yeah - Lopeti is in a kneebrace but said he would be OK after the Xmas break.
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McCutcheon told me he had corrective surgery recently and won't be running until the middle of January. As I said in an earlier post: AJ Gilbert could be a standby reserve for Hooper - he has the attributes - or maybe Ale.

Sam Lane is running now and doing a few drills; Kingston and Foley are on light duties; Peterson has C3 damage but should be right by the end of the month.

In hindsight, I didn't see Fitzpatrick last week in the three sessions I was at.
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thierry dusautoir

Alan Cameron (40)
At least sudrugby said "could" and not "would".

If he is going to the Top 14 the Waratahs and Wallabies will be affected, as hard bastard tight head locks are rare. Agen is struggling and could use him.

There should be no hint of criticism if he does go: it's not as though he's a born and bred Aussie rugby player who is leaving at age 26 - he didn't arrive in Oz until he was 19, and then he played rugby league.

His Wallabies credentials would have upped his price and since he is a bit of a journeyman already it could have been part of a career plan, and if that is the case good on him.

If he does go I shouldn't be surprised if Lopeti heads over there too. There's another brother, Sione, in Europe who has been with the Scarlets for a couple of seasons.

Maybe the brothers will start their Tongan version of the Tuilagi clan.
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Affected as the overall standard of our lock stocks will improve
 

thierry dusautoir

Alan Cameron (40)
Yes I was inferring that but I was joking.........sort of.....

But on a serious note if Timani did leave I think the world would turn quite easily and wouldn't stop to look back.

He is definately not a player i would class as irreplacable
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
Timani is such a strange player. Most of us would define a Tighthead lock as a big fellow (even by professional 2nd row standards) who plays tight around the park, dominates the lineout, and scrums excellently.

Which Timani is big and scrums well, he is certainly not a tight player and is nothing too notable at lineout time. In fact, he is possible one of the loosest playing professional 2nd rowers in the game.

Whilst his merits are obvious (and I've listed them), I think his very contradictory skill set basically means you'd battle to find him a test locking partner that realy balances with him. Lord knows Sharpie certainly wasn't a good balance.

As such, perhaps his loss into that big for Aus rugby given the terrific variety of young locks we have coming through.
 
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