NSW AAGPS Rugby 2013

[Hugh Jarse]

Does anybody know when and where GPS is playing CAS

The 2013 NSWSRU Calendar & trials schedule is available for viewing in the resource library of the NSWSRU website.
http://www.nswschoolsrugby.rugbynet.com.au/verve/_resources/2013_NSWSRU_CALENDAR_as_of_9.4.13.pdf
Key Dates for GPS
16 June GPS U16 (Presidents) trials at Kings
18 June U18 Trials at Knox AICES v GPS III, CAS II vs GPS II, CAS I vs GPS I
21 June U18 Trials at Knox (Curagul) Cnty v AICES, GPS III v CCC, CAS II v ISA II, GPS II v CHS II, CAS I vs ISA I, CHS I v GPS I

 

[ShortballAcademy0]

Clancy, McGregor, i think Kellaway is wasted for speed and strength in at 5/8

Mcgregor I think will prevail, he has the game to do it, its all just about his confidence now. He runs the lines well and sure can hit the holes (deleted, not necessary .. FP). Clancy from what i've seen is a contender as well, he will need to prove himself as a legitimate player first.

 

[ShortballAcademy0]

I agree, there are several boys playing in the tournament this weekend. Especially with Souths combining with Randwick they will construct a big and physical team. Interesting to see if all the young boys are at training on tuesday..

Too true, hopefully we will see the likes of Alex Hancock (Riverview 2nds) Play a solid tournament as he has been in form lately. The withdrawals of Hutchison and McGregor due to school commitments will weigh down the gordon team, but they have some easy pool games and it should be interesting to see if they can pull off a couple of upsets for that elusive 2nd state Championship.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Can we stay on topic?

If the cap fits, how about you take it to sportal or facebook?

Edit: Thanks mods. Thankless job at times isn't it.

 

[ShortballAcademy0]

Predictions for View vs Joeys next weekend?

Should be a very close one, the vyew boix should get the W as they have had more trial games and they are looking like they have a much more structurally excitable back line, the forwards will be the decider, as i've heard they have a HUGE front row, but i know that Riverview will put everything in to it. Should be a great game and the blue and white should get it

 

[George Smith]

Mcgregor I think will prevail, he has the game to do it, its all just about his confidence now. He runs the lines well and sure can hit the holes (deleted, not necessary .. FP). Clancy from what i've seen is a contender as well, he will need to prove himself as a legitimate player first.

Shortball, you can try and talk up you school friends on this blog but it is about as transparent as the proverbial dog's balls!

View's front row have a reputation of going AWOL where they perform well for a stanza and then ...??.... and rely on others to do the work. Conor Menzies (if fit) would be my first pick in either GPS 2's or 3s as he is exceptional and tenacious. Hozea Fotukava struggles to understand a team's lineout calls but works well for occasional bursts of energy but will be found out at higher levels (like he has over past 3 State Champs and last year's Schools 16s champs).

I agree that View's strength is in your backs with the standouts being Hutchison and McGregor and very well complimented by Bill Freeman, Sam Mete and Tom Molloy.

But that will not get them in the GPS 1sts. At flyhalf both Deegan and Clancy are way ahead as playmakers and can both steer a team around the paddock due to the added maturity. Hutchison supports well as a No12 but the New centres will be picked ahead of them. My tip is the View boys (Hutch and McG) will get games in both the 3rds and the 2nds during the upcoming tournament.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Shortball, you can try and talk up you school friends on this blog but it is about as transparent as the proverbial dog's balls!

./..snip../. Hozea Fotukava struggles to understand a team's lineout calls but works well for occasional bursts of energy but will be found out at higher levels (like he has over past 3 State Champs and last year's Schools 16s champs).

./..snip../. .

re Shortball - You should have seen some of the dribble that was posted earlier before the Mods got the hoover out.

Re Hosea - you may be a little unfair on saying that he was found out at Schools U16's last year. I may be wrong - I often am as La Jarse reminds me on a continual basis but IIRC he was in GPS III in the NSW Schools Opens last year and not at the U16's. Poor bugger was injured in the build up to the National U16's and was unable to showcase the Brand (to borrow a phrase from Bieber Boy). He is in the NGS isn't he, along with Jack Bowditch?

Edit: I was wrong. Fotokava was in the programme as the #2 for Pressies A U16 last year, but I seem to recall that Even Pritchard (#18) and Sam Cater (#16) got plenty of time on the field for the Pressies as Hooker. While he was in the programme, I can't really recall him getting all that much game time. That is why I thought he was unavailable at Knox 16's.

 

[wreckless]

re Shortball - You should have seen some of the dribble that was posted earlier before the Mods got the hoover out.

Too true - good riddance!

 

[Quick Hands]

If the GPS half back position is as unclear as many think, perhaps the selectors will go for a 9/10 combination. Pick the 10 and if no clear choice go for his regular 9.

 

[aka_the_think]

What is all this nonsense about.

Most of the names being thrown around by the immature schoolboys on the forum won't, and shouldn't, make the GPS 1sts. I think Kellaway should get the gong at fullback, pretty much a foregone conclusion, but I don't think he should get it for fly-half, it is pretty much irrelevant though, fullback it is for him.

As I recall Milne might have been playing Outside Centre against Riverview, or maybe it was Inside? I think that he played very well there, and I would definitely have Tepai and Tanne as the two centres, maybe with Sam Mete on Left Wing at 11, he has played quite well, pretty big, very fast, perhaps fastest rugby player in the GPS? Anyway fly-half will be tough, McGregor is good but certainly not up to the level of GPS 1's yet. Deegan is fairly experienced but by all accounts not at his best at the moment, Tulloch and Clancy are both great players, in my books it's a battle between those two, I would give it to Tulloch.
Forwards will be tough, I am not sure about Hooker, Hosea is an amazing player but GPS 1's in year 11 might be a big ask especially in the front row, there are lots of great front rowers out there, will be interesting to see who they go for.
I think Ben Hunt deserves the gong at Number 8 personally considering his awesome display against Newington, but it's a competitive position, could go to anyone really.

Someone asked me earlier why I put Shore last and not Kings. Valid question, it's because I think Kings' loss, will very large, was mainly due to lack of preparation rather than them being a bad team. They will improve with more game time under their belt, I am quite sure of that, and become a fairly formidable force in this competition by its end, whereas I don't think, by all accounts, Shore are going to be great. They have a great team on paper, and next year they will be a gun side, but I just don't think this is going to be their year. Expect big things next year though

Anyway aside from the nonsense banter on this page, it's been pretty good.

On a side note what do people think is going to go down in the 3rd XV competition. I think Grammar will be a fairly formidable force, as will Armidale against other school's 3rds. Armidale 1sts did beat Riverview 2nds last year so they should go in favourites for that one.
It's an important competition in my opinion, not enough talk being directed towards it.

 

[inside word]

My GPS 1st and 2nds

1sts

1- Nathan Kelly (View)
2- Hosea Fotukava (view)
3- Matt Sandell (Joeys)
4- Ned Hanigan (Joeys)
5- Lachie Cannell (newington)
6- Olly Kamp (scots)
7- Jack McCalluman (kings)
8- Angus Critchon (scots)
9- Joey Lussick (newington)
10- Andrew Deegan (joeys)
11- Sam Mete (view)
12- Corey Tulloch (kings)/will davies (Kings)
13- Tepai Moreoa (Newington)
14- Taane Milne (newingon)
15- Andrew Kellaway (scots)

2nds

1- Vuni Fifita (new)
2-??
3- Bowditch (view)
4-??
5-??
6- anthony Vasilis (new)
7- dave Morris (new)
8- Ben Hunt (view)
9- Mike Kennedy (View)
10- Corey Tulloch (kings)
11- Josh Mitchell (new)
12- Tim McCutchinson (Joeys)
13- Henry Hutchinson- (View)
14- Sepsesa Loaga-Tarogi (new)
15- Nic Clancy (Shore)


Close Mentions

doug Streeter (shore) - (the 4 props above him are better scrummagers, stronger, faster, stronger ball runner, tacklers and have decent ball skills despite the position Props. streeter would miss the ground if he aimed at it and can fault under pressure! he should be 3's though.

Bill freeman (View)- should be in 3's. the players above him just have a bit more pace and a little more skill in terms of footwork and passing accuracy. should have a good shot at making 1s or 2s next year! he could sneak into the 2nds this year for his defensive effort.

Tom Molloy(View) - played a very good defensive game being up against Tepai, he does tend to shift the pressure of throwing a bad pass and does lack pace. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes GPS 2s though!

Ben Starky (scots)- should make 3's, a solid reliable player but i think corey and McCutchinson just have the edge over him. Theres no surprise if he makes the seconds though.

rory davis(kings)- A solid player and should make thirds, i think that mike kennedys bullet pass and very strong kicking game will give him the edge.

 

[Quick Hands]

On a side note what do people think is going to go down in the 3rd XV competition. I think Grammar will be a fairly formidable force, as will Armidale against other school's 3rds. Armidale 1sts did beat Riverview 2nds last year so they should go in favourites for that one.
It's an important competition in my opinion, not enough talk being directed towards it.

There's been a bit of comment about it, but the 3rds competition won't start until next round. Grammar played High last Saturday and won the firsts - not a runaway, but fairly comfortable in the end I think. You'd think that Grammar, with Lachlan Fear on board would be right up there against the 3rds of other teams. Hard to get a handle on TAS. The only 3rds scores that I know about last week were that Scots beat Kings and I think I read somewhere that Riverview beat Newington. Not sure about what happened at Hunter's Hill.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

There's been a bit of comment about it, but the 3rds competition won't start until next round. Grammar played High last Saturday and won the firsts - not a runaway, but fairly comfortable in the end I think. You'd think that Grammar, with Lachlan Fear on board would be right up there against the 3rds of other teams. Hard to get a handle on TAS. The only 3rds scores that I know about last week were that Scots beat Kings and I think I read somewhere that Riverview beat Newington. Not sure about what happened at Hunter's Hill.

IMHO the proof of Grammar's 2013 will come against SJC.
I would be surprised if SJC are not the strongest 3rds side or very close to equal to the strongest 3rds team.
This game is tomorrow week, I think.
Given my attachment to SGS my heart is somewhat in my mouth, however, i watched about 15 minutes of their training this week: They have a good idea of what they're trying to do. Their forward patterns look good and, I would hesitantly venture, above your average 3rd XV - with no disrespect intended.
My hope for them to do well makes it difficult for me to be objective.

 

[Gristlechewer]

Gristlechewer and Lee Grant you 2 have probably seen this but Clancy features pretty prominently in this shore 2012 video.
Seems like what I would describe as a very good schoolboy 10 but the gaps he finds will disappear as he goes up the chain and as he gets older.

I am not against him for GPS, but feel that any of the 6 no.10's SHOULD excel playing behind the pack that they have. Also big roughie tip here.... Jack McCalman as 6.
Just remember, you heard it here first.

 

[Gristlechewer]

Too true - good riddance!

But Wreckless, Dribble is now an elective for years 10 through 12. You can even do pathways in Dribble and it counts towards your IB score. You can just see it, can't you? " Hey mum, I f&@ked in Math and Bio, but got a HD in dribble..." "Proud of you son x"

 

[beserker]

On a side note what do people think is going to go down in the 3rd XV competition. I think Grammar will be a fairly formidable force, as will Armidale against other school's 3rds. Armidale 1sts did beat Riverview 2nds last year so they should go in favourites for that one.
It's an important competition in my opinion, not enough talk being directed towards it.

Looking forward to the 3s. Only had trial matches so far. Hope SGS can put on some impressive wins on the trot. 3's from the big 6 will be made up of ex 1's and 2's from year 12 wanting to concentrate on HSC, and other young guns kept on the leash relishing having a crack at SGS, High and Armidale 1's. They'll only meet each other once, so not much analysis of the opposition, so side with most creativity, mongrel-ity and ability to recover from mistake to prevail.

 

[wreckless]

But Wreckless, Dribble is now an elective for years 10 through 12. You can even do pathways in Dribble and it counts towards your IB score. You can just see it, can't you? " Hey mum, I f&@ked in Math and Bio, but got a HD in dribble." "Proud of you son x"

Yes G-chew - probably a bit harsh, especially when I look back on some of the dribble I have posted!!! In fact, you've got me thinking : surely I would have some credits for RPL ( Recognised Prior Learning ) to put towards a mature age entry in a tertiary qualification in dribble? Associate Diploma perhaps!

 

[George Smith]

re Shortball - You should have seen some of the dribble that was posted earlier before the Mods got the hoover out.

Re Hosea - you may be a little unfair on saying that he was found out at Schools U16's last year. I may be wrong - I often am as La Jarse reminds me on a continual basis but IIRC he was in GPS III in the NSW Schools Opens last year and not at the U16's. Poor bugger was injured in the build up to the National U16's and was unable to showcase the Brand (to borrow a phrase from Bieber Boy). He is in the NGS isn't he, along with Jack Bowditch?

Edit: I was wrong. Fotokava was in the programme as the #2 for Pressies A U16 last year, but I seem to recall that Even Pritchard (#18) and Sam Cater (#16) got plenty of time on the field for the Pressies as Hooker. While he was in the programme, I can't really recall him getting all that much game time. That is why I thought he was unavailable at Knox 16's.

Huge, you are right re Hosea Fotokava and the Pres U16s As. Fotokava didn't trial and was selected based on his GPS 3rds selection. But when he turned up at final training and match days Cater was preferred based on the amount of game time played. Pritchard although diminutive has great technical skills at prop and he played in this position after they realised Boakes was still developing his skills. Cater & Pritchard have been selected over Fotokava in NSW (U15s) and Sydney (U16s) teams in last two seasons. The only thing keeping Pritchard from being the View 1sts starting hooker is his size.

 

[FootyForever]

The only thing keeping Pritchard from being the View 1sts starting hooker is his size.

In my opinion, Pritchard's size isn't holding him back - he plays well above his size in game, and definitely did more than hold his own against a big Newington pack. I personally think that he deserves a permanent position in the 1's at Riverview - whether it be in the front row or in a backrow position. I acknowledge it is a tight contest between Hosea and Pritchard for hooker, and I don't expect to see a permanent choice in that position at Riverview until the end of the season.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

While Pritchard is being seen by some as too small for View front row, apparently Cater has had a growth spurt and is now too big (tall) for Shore 1st front row.

Do we have a Goldilocks and the three Hookers situation?

This one is too small, this one is too tall, this one seems to be just the right size but has TPN lineoutitis.