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Ideas for NRC 2015

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David Wilson (68)
. Nice to see TPN at the game as well .as was Dave Dennis at the Stars / Rising game earlier in the season .. More Wallabies & Marquee Super 15 players to roll up in the crowds at these matches may help generate more interest , a great way to give back .

Henry Speight ran the water for the ACT Vikings during his rehab. As you say, great to see.
 

LeinsterRebel

Frank Nicholson (4)
My suggestions...

* Scrap the soulless franchises.
* Have the highest placed state competition sides compete in the NRC
* Abolish the experimental rules
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
So just keep it as the National Club Championship?
Well, it is cheaper.

Plus having it as the curtain-raiser to the Templeton Cup match means you could get a 3k+ crowd and not have to pay an extra ground hire. It's a win-win.

And to think they came up with the NCC concept in 1908 – the old ideas are always the best!
 

Wilson

David Codey (61)
Some of the NRC games at ballymore already got a 3k+ crowd without any extra ground hire, and that's with the crowd as paying customers.
 

Pass it to Dunning!

Bob Loudon (25)
An NCC instead of an NRC has nothing going for it, in my view. Who in Sydney or Brisbane is going to care about one club side they never previously supported? What other cities have clubs that could compete? Rather than selecting and developing the best players in the country, only players in certain clubs get developed.
 

BDA

Peter Johnson (47)
like some of the suggestions on here.

I definitely think they need to find a way to give the fans greater televised/broadcast access to all the games so that fans can follow various teams. The idea of streaming on the website would be good, and fairly low cost. It would also be great if Fox Sports could televise a second game each week.

The longer the competition runs the better quality the games will become and more connection with the fans will have with the teams. That should translate to better numbers in terms of viewers. Hopefully the NRC can stick around long enough to achieve this.

any thoughts on the rules? I actually thought they worked pretty well. They definitely achieved their purpose of encouraging running rugby. They also seemed to perhaps inadvertently lead to a lot of scrummaging. I think that was quite beneficial. Having the dominant scrum became pretty important so from a development perspective I really liked that aspect.

I'd probably bring the points for conversions back to 2 though.
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
The NRC is sports channel filler. No more than that when off shore, but that's fine.

Having said that, I suspect they may standardise the points values (or at least scale the conversions back to 2) within a season or so.

The thing I'm interested in seeing this year is whether the defences can tighten up to reduce some of the 2nd half blow outs. With a longer lead-in to the season, get those club players closing the gap a bit more on the pros in terms of physical preparation.
 

LeinsterRebel

Frank Nicholson (4)
No, no and no. You really don't get the point of the NRC, do you?

Come on, is there any need to be so disrespectful? I'm not an idiot so I would appreciate if you didn't address me in such a manner.

I do understand the purpose of the NRC. However, I do not believe that the NRC is viable in its current guise and if it continues as it has in 2014 it will not live much longer. Also there is no quick solution to have a top class national rugby championship with popular support.


My proposals to make the top state sides qualify for the NRC on an annual basis is to boost the standing of these clubs in their communities. Manly Marlins, for instance, if it was competing on a national scale, would have a much greater chance of capturing the imagination of the catchment area. This would increase support in Shute Shield games and all levels of rugby and most likely encourage young people to actually play the game.

Giving these clubs the ability to compete at a higher level will increase the standing of these clubs considerably and in the long term this will benefit Australian rugby.

There is a proud history of club rugby in Australia and it is something that can be tapped into. A national competition for these sides is a natural evolution and something that could grow organically.

I do not believe that the new franchises will ever capture the imagination of the public, and I believe that the ARU is searching for a quick win which is not likely. It's a high risk, high reward approach which is not prudent.



In regards the rule changes, there have been (in my opinion) too many drafted in for the inaugural year of the tournament and it has undermined its credibility.
 

LeinsterRebel

Frank Nicholson (4)
An NCC instead of an NRC has nothing going for it, in my view. Who in Sydney or Brisbane is going to care about one club side they never previously supported? What other cities have clubs that could compete? Rather than selecting and developing the best players in the country, only players in certain clubs get developed.

Fair point. They are not going to support their rival club, but they will take interest in it and will aspire to be there themselves. Driving standards up. Will these franchises ever enjoy popular support?
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Fair point. They are not going to support their rival club, but they will take interest in it and will aspire to be there themselves. Driving standards up. Will these franchises ever enjoy popular support?

Will Shute Shield/Premier Rugby sides ever enjoy popular support (in the true sense of the word)? Their support has been on the decline for a long time.

It's not like club rugby crowds put the NRC crowds to shame.
 

I like to watch

David Codey (61)
My proposals to make the top state sides qualify for the NRC on an annual basis is to boost the standing of these clubs in their communities. Manly Marlins, for instance, if it was competing on a national scale, would have a much greater chance of capturing the imagination of the catchment area. This would increase support in Shute Shield games and all levels of rugby and most likely encourage young people to actually play the game.

Giving these clubs the ability to compete at a higher level will increase the standing of these clubs considerably and in the long term this will benefit Australian rugby.

There is a proud history of club rugby in Australia and it is something that can be tapped into. A national competition for these sides is a natural evolution and something that could grow organically.
What would happen in this scenario,is weaker clubs would be cannibalised by the stronger clubs,making the SS unviable.
Give the new comp a chance.
When the Super 10 was formed,no one had much interest in it for a few years.
You cannot expect start up franchises to have spectators of +10,000's in their inaugural year, but it could well happen after a few years if promoted correctly.
 
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