Wallaby 31 players for 2015 RWC

[Highlander35]

Yeah, I suspected as much. We've got a decent Fijian contingent already, plus our home grown bunch is larger than the gunners. It'd be nice if he remained eligible, but if he plays for the Aussies or the Fijiians it doesn't matter, it's about Glasgow. We needed wing depth with Maitland and DTH off, and Lamont getting old.

 

[Brumbieman]

He has bounced off quite a few attempted tackles. Maybe you should grit your teeth and watch the Tahs a bit more.


I mean, New South Wales.

I've seen him play mate, I'm referring to that try in particular.

Smearing Morahan over the pitch isn't really that great an achievement.

 

[Brumby Runner]

The reality now is that promising players AREN'T sticking around, they're going abroad, and under residency rules, can become eligible for OS teams. I'm not in favour of throwing Test caps around willy-nilly to brand players for Oz, but it is more problematic these days for countries like Oz who have trouble retaining players anyway. The players become half-good then bugger off and get capped OS.
I don't think Naiyaravoro is good enough for Test rugby yet, but I think he may well be in a year or two, so a cap in a "friendly" would not be outrageous.
Problem is that currently, his upsides (scoring tries that few, if any, wingers in Oz can) don't greatly outweigh the downsides.

Can't say that I've seen all these down sides that so many people refer to. I did see him deliberately knock the ball into touch in an early game, but haven't seen him do it since. Is that a sign that he is a quick learner?

I believe he is a better prospect now than Naholo was in his early days in Aus. Chances are good that he will continue to develop to be a better player in a couple of years time. Hopefully, he is then playing for the Wallabies rather than for Scotland (or a NZ side where they seem to identify talent a bit better than we do).

To avoid having all and sundry posting about his weaknesses. I understand that many people see him as having some defensive deficiencies and problems with kicks put in behind him, but I have to say that I haven't seen an avalanche of tries scored down his wing in the games he has played.

 

[Lindommer]

Did big Taqele play Edinburgh off against Glasgow?

 

[Marcelo]

Nah, it's about whether Nayaravoro is good enough to be playing for the Wallabies.....

We have quite a few quality wingers, and I'm not sure if he's up there based on his form....

If Cheika wants to throw him a cap against the USA, that's fine if he's genuinely being groomed as a future prospect...

But I don't see him going to the RWC without a big improvement.

We are talking about a back-up, clearly. He would take the place left by Peter Betham, remember that Peter have played against ABs by an injury crisis. With the strong exodus, we must ensure the greatest possible options

 

[Joe Blow]

It's a bit ripe that he has thrown down the ultimatum.
"Cap me or I'm gone"

He will be capped if and when it happens. Let him go.

 

[Slim 293]

We are talking about a back-up, clearly. He would take the place left by Peter Betham, remember that Peter have played against ABs by an injury crisis. With the strong exodus, we must ensure the greatest possible options

How many back ups do we cap so they don't go overseas?

Do we need to dig into club rugby too just as an insurance policy?

Anyways, it's redundant now that he's signed on with Glasgow.........

 

[Groucho]

How many back ups do we cap so they don't go overseas?

Do we need to dig into club rugby too just as an insurance policy?

Anyways, it's redundant now that he's signed on with Glasgow...

Why is it redundant? If he turns out to be a very good winger, in the same vein as Nadolo, then he can play for Australia in the future, instead of for Scotland. That's to his advantage, and ours.

 

[Slim 293]

Why is it redundant? If he turns out to be a very good winger, in the same vein as Nadolo, then he can play for Australia in the future, instead of for Scotland. That's to his advantage, and ours.

It's redundant now because originally there was some clause that if he was capped by the Wallabies it would prevent him heading north...........

Apparently that's now changed and he is heading to Glasgow regardless, so if he gets capped now it's on premise that he's one of our top wingers who we want to take to the RWC........ which would seem unlikely.

 

[wamberal]

It's a bit ripe that he has thrown down the ultimatum.
"Cap me or I'm gone"

He will be capped if and when it happens. Let him go.

It's hardly an ultimatum. It's a choice.


We can let him go, he has signed a contract. However, that contract has a clause that apparently renders it void if he is capped before the commencement date.

We have the choice to keep him here, if we want to.

 

[TOCC]

It's hardly an ultimatum. It's a choice.


We can let him go, he has signed a contract. However, that contract has a clause that apparently renders it void if he is capped before the commencement date.

We have the choice to keep him here, if we want to.

No, he has just signed a contract with Glasgow and it has no such clause..



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[Gnostic]

Huh? Everyone you compare in the post is a lock? Do you mean you do not consider them locks? Going on both their performances IMO I'd now consider them both to be locks then 6's.

I'm in agreeance with the rest of your post. Jones should be on the bench.

Sorry I was thinking that most would consider them 6's. I thought 6 and typed Lock as obviously they are interchangeable.

 

[Slim 293]

Just a clear a few things up.............

The NSW Waratahs' long-term plans have been dealt a blow in the build-up to their Super Rugby final rematch with the Crusaders in Sydney on Saturday with reports that emerging star winger Taqele Naiyaravoro has signed a three-year deal with Scottish club Glasgow Warriors.

The Warriors announced the signing on Monday night on their official website.

The deal is reportedly subject to a medical and approval of a visa application.
Naiyaravoro, 23, who joined the Waratahs last year from NRL club Wests Tigers, had supposedly brokered a deal with Edinburgh that would be null and void if he was capped for the Wallabies.

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After the Waratahs beat the Sharks 33-18 at Allianz Stadium on Saturday, the Fiji-born player, who scored his second try in as many weeks, said a Wallabies cap would keep him in Australia for 2016.

But the Glasgow Warriors announced on Monday night that Naiyaravoro had signed with their club, saying he would join them after this year's Super Rugby season.

The Glasgow Warriors website also quoted Naiyaravoro as saying: "Glasgow have been talking to me for a while and opened the door for me, so I'm happy to have signed a long-term contract with the club. I'm looking forward to moving to Glasgow with my family to continue my development."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...move-to-glasgow-warriors-20150518-gh4kzs.html

 

[Viking]

Mate, hate to be pedantic, but it's Folau, not Falou.

Potato.. Potaoto

 

[BDA]

Many Wallabies or possible Wallabies are presently injured. I think it would be prudent to ignore them for the moment until they return and prove their fitness.

I include in that category, Scott Sio, Saia Fainga'a, Tatafu Potota Nau, Laurie Weeks (back but yet to prove his 80 minute fitness), Quade Cooper, Matt To'omua. I would also include overseas-based players who haven't returned yet to prove their form and fitness, such as Giteau, Mitchell. Any others?

This thread is just about who we think our best team would be for the world cup. Why would we ignore players that aren't currently on the paddock? There is still 3/4 months until the world cup and there is nothing to suggest any of the players you've listed wont be available.

 

[barbarian]

re Taqele- Fuck him, I say.

He's obviously desperate to go offshore, so can't want the jersey that badly. Mercenaries like that don't deserve a Wallaby cap.
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[Slim 293]

To be fair, it looks like he just wants to provide for his family........... and for that reason playing for the Wallabies is not his primary goal.

 

[barbarian]

Yeah that's fair enough, didn't mean to have a go at him personally. He's well within his rights to do what he did, and I wish him all the best.

But I think once you make that choice, you shouldn't be picked in the Wallabies.
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[Slim 293]

Totally agree..........

He doesn't have the form to be picked for the RWC, and there's really no point in handing him a cap based on him returning in 2019.

 

[Viking]

We really aren't short of any wingers anyway. Speight, Tomane, Cummins, Horne, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), JOC (James O'Connor), Mitchell - all with test experience. I'm happy with any of them.

If somehow they all get injured then we got Betham, Morahan, Shipperly, CFS - these guys won't set the world alight but they would certainly hold their own, they've done it before.