RWC: AUS v WAL (Twickenham): POOL A; 2:45am (AEDT) Sunday 11 October
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jollyswagman
Ron Walden (29)
Yep, the thought didn't cross my mind originally but when it was suggested I thought, "well, if that was the case the case then it may not have been a dumb decision to do so"....but yes, I can't see that as a legitimate call and furthermore I didn't notice any "pow-wow" of sorts between Foley & AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) prior and I highly doubt he would have made that call himself.
He missed it just to screw up my SuperBru Margins.
That is a merciless tipping competition where getting within +/- 5 of the margin is worth 1/2 a point which is a huge thing because they only give 1 point for tipping the correct team.
Bastard referee did it to me in another game as well where I had the margin correct at the buzzer, but the rotten sh!t with the whistle awarded a penalty try to one of the combatants, and whoosh out the window goes my extra 1/2 point for nailing the margin.
I have dropped down 26 places in the competition solely on not getting the extra 1/2 points for the margin being in the +/- 5 points. The Bru in SuperBru stands for "Brutal".
#FirstWorldProblem.
jollyswagman
Ron Walden (29)
Maybe it would be perceived as time wasting and poor sportsmanship Q? Isn't there some sort of rule regarding penalty shots at goal whereby the kicker must make a deliberate attempt or something to that effect?......too avoid any trickery like short kick or kick to the corner from tee.
Back in the day, one of the Scots Fullbacks used to take penalty kicks for touch from the tee. The bloke in the cohort before the Hastings boys.
I think it was Andy Irvine but I may be wrong.
He didn't waste time with the Biggarena, or Johnny Wilko constipated bowel motion action prior to taking the Penalty kicks from the tee,
I think it was Andy Irvine but I may be wrong.
He didn't waste time with the Biggarena, or Johnny Wilko constipated bowel motion action prior to taking the Penalty kicks from the tee,
ChargerWA
Mark Loane (55)
Tell them not to stress too much, I expect they'll only have to meet one of them.
Pedrolicus
Dick Tooth (41)
Well, there is. You are supposed to make a proper effort to kick a goal. Admitting you didn't is admitting you deliberately breached a law. So it would be pretty shit.
KOB1987
Rod McCall (65)
Actually it's only 1/2 a point if 2 people are within the margin of error. If you are the only one you get the full point. If 10 people are you get 0.1 of a point!
EDIT: sorry you are correct. It's the nailing the margin precisely one that's divvied up.
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Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
OK fuckers, prepare to be truthed.
Firstly - I'm surprised the Wallabies team bus didn't break down under the weight of their gigantic adamantium balls. Just. Fucking. Awesome.
Sure, Wales didn't exactly brim with attacking prowess, but they figured they could use beef to run over us, and it wasn't a bad plan. Problem is, when they couldn't crack that, they went wide a little ponderously, and our rush defenders picked it like a nose.
The continued decisions to go to the line was madness, though I could understand it somewhat - they get closer, but then have to start again, having just seen what the Wallaby defence was doing to their best stuff.
A few other things I noticed:
- Foley made some of the most important tackles in the game, grassing bigger men to give his team mates something to aim at, or in the case of North, preventing a try with McCalman's superb assistance. While the attack wasn't scintillating due to Wales' rush defence, he managed with what he had OK. What was funny is big blokes like North tried to run around him, which played into his hands on the cover tackle because he's so quick. Giteau was similar in that regard.
- Giteau stood at hooker on their lineout - usually Foley's gig. Protecting the ribs?
- 60th minute when Simmons came on, he went straight to TH lock. Tactically a good move to get the fresh legs into the power position. For a couple of scrums, Wales held, but then we started to test out young Francis and he was found a little wanting, but not as much as England.
- the really interesting bit about that period of scrums is Joubers let a LOT go. There were guys from both sides splintering up, or out, and changing angle and direction, and he just let it happen. A French ref would have found issues IMHO.
- When AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) made the tackle for Beale's turnover in the 69th minute, the tackle count was Wallabies made 117 / missed 9 to Wales 46/9. Wow
- Right after that, the lineout was a bit of a mess but the silky hands from all players nearly got us a try. Foley kicked his 5th from 5 (yea boi - where da haterz at?) to ice the cake. You could see from Gatland's face that he knew the game was over at that point, with nearly 8 minutes to go.
- Folau in the air was poo. Has been the last few games. That ankle is becoming an issue for the team because he can't land on it from height. Still, for him to push through that last 7 minutes was pretty solid.
- Lineout continues to creak.
- After absorbing all that weight from Wales, we played some of our best attacking rugby in the last 10 minutes. Magic. Testament to the fitness of our team and the quality of our bench.
That was fucking epic Test Rugby. If you don't think so, you're a fucking gormless pillock, and we can't be friends any more.
Firstly - I'm surprised the Wallabies team bus didn't break down under the weight of their gigantic adamantium balls. Just. Fucking. Awesome.
Sure, Wales didn't exactly brim with attacking prowess, but they figured they could use beef to run over us, and it wasn't a bad plan. Problem is, when they couldn't crack that, they went wide a little ponderously, and our rush defenders picked it like a nose.
The continued decisions to go to the line was madness, though I could understand it somewhat - they get closer, but then have to start again, having just seen what the Wallaby defence was doing to their best stuff.
A few other things I noticed:
- Foley made some of the most important tackles in the game, grassing bigger men to give his team mates something to aim at, or in the case of North, preventing a try with McCalman's superb assistance. While the attack wasn't scintillating due to Wales' rush defence, he managed with what he had OK. What was funny is big blokes like North tried to run around him, which played into his hands on the cover tackle because he's so quick. Giteau was similar in that regard.
- Giteau stood at hooker on their lineout - usually Foley's gig. Protecting the ribs?
- 60th minute when Simmons came on, he went straight to TH lock. Tactically a good move to get the fresh legs into the power position. For a couple of scrums, Wales held, but then we started to test out young Francis and he was found a little wanting, but not as much as England.
- the really interesting bit about that period of scrums is Joubers let a LOT go. There were guys from both sides splintering up, or out, and changing angle and direction, and he just let it happen. A French ref would have found issues IMHO.
- When AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) made the tackle for Beale's turnover in the 69th minute, the tackle count was Wallabies made 117 / missed 9 to Wales 46/9. Wow
- Right after that, the lineout was a bit of a mess but the silky hands from all players nearly got us a try. Foley kicked his 5th from 5 (yea boi - where da haterz at?) to ice the cake. You could see from Gatland's face that he knew the game was over at that point, with nearly 8 minutes to go.
- Folau in the air was poo. Has been the last few games. That ankle is becoming an issue for the team because he can't land on it from height. Still, for him to push through that last 7 minutes was pretty solid.
- Lineout continues to creak.
- After absorbing all that weight from Wales, we played some of our best attacking rugby in the last 10 minutes. Magic. Testament to the fitness of our team and the quality of our bench.
That was fucking epic Test Rugby. If you don't think so, you're a fucking gormless pillock, and we can't be friends any more.
kiap
Steve Williams (59)
Generalising it away from this game, missing a kick could be a cunning tactic.
Cynical? Yes, not that it'd be a first. But for a team with the lead it could be advantageous. You get to chew up a minute of time and remain in the opposition half. That could be worth more than 3 points and having to receive the kickoff in your own half.
Admitting to it wouldn't be cunning, though, obviously.
Cynical? Yes, not that it'd be a first. But for a team with the lead it could be advantageous. You get to chew up a minute of time and remain in the opposition half. That could be worth more than 3 points and having to receive the kickoff in your own half.
Admitting to it wouldn't be cunning, though, obviously.
Shiggins
Steve Williams (59)
A Samoan player hit carded for a similar thing. No excuse to hurt someone
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Steve Williams (59)
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Steve Williams (59)
Haha are you serious. It's obvious as. I saw it when it happened and couldn't believe he wasn't binned. A million Welshman will be uploading it don't worry
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JJJ
Vay Wilson (31)
Wales had a lot of chances to win that, on 2nd viewing. If the halfback had just kept his grubby hands off it when the Welsh scrum was marching us back toward the try line they would've had a pushover try at the very least. Instead he decided to go for glory himself and ballsed it up royally. There were other missed opportunities but none so gratuitous as that one.
I really wish one of our 9s would own the jersey. Maybe the reserve halfback gets halftime blowjobs.
I really wish one of our 9s would own the jersey. Maybe the reserve halfback gets halftime blowjobs.
TSR
Mark Ella (57)
By the time he took the kick there was less than 3 minutes left. If he got it, wales needed two converted tries to win. A draw was no good to them. There was no way that was going to happen in the time left.
He just missed the kick. Sometimes things really are as straight forward as they seem.
He just missed the kick. Sometimes things really are as straight forward as they seem.
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
My thoughts on the game:-
1) Tipuric was huge. His defensive work was outstanding and I really wonder if he should be in the starting side every week. I know what Warburton brings but I think Tipuric is just that much better.
2) Wallabies were under the pump the whole game. In the first half I saw one stat that had then with only 25% of the ball. Their defensive efforts for whole match were exemplified in that 9 minute period when down to 13 men. Nathan Grey again should be getting massive plaudits for the work he has done, not just in defensive structures but also for instilling a willingness and desire to do the hard work.
3)If I could be bothered to do so I could go back and quote a post I put in during the 2011RWC when Gatland was re-signed. I said then something like the WRU had made a mistake and Gatland had taken the side as far as he could IMO and while they are a strong challenge every game they are totally predictable. Nothing I've seen from Wales and the Lions to a large degree since that time makes me want to revise that. The game plan is just so limited and while as I said above the defence of the Wallabies was outstanding the attack of the Welsh was unimaginative to say the least. The individual skills to draw and commit a defender one on one just poor. That is nothing new.
4) Scrum - Wallabies could put that win down to the scrum, perhaps a first in Australian Rugby?. Winning vital turnovers and penalties at the set piece with genuine dominance gave Joubert no choice, and I doubt anybody would be questioning the validity of those penalties.
5) Douglas - I along with many others struggled to see what he would bring when selected above Horwill and Jones especially given his injury struggles in 2015. I said I thought it was because Chieka was backing hismelf to get the best from Douglas and that level Chieka thought was better than the best level available to Horwill. Well that was proved to me last night. Amazing effort from a lock in defence.
The bad :-
1) I don't think Folau was fit, or anywhere near it. I don't think I've seen him miss so many high balls in his entire Rugby career. His timing was off and his running not very fluid. If he isn't 100% next week give him a rest.
2) Genia - very poor form IMO to say regarding the cynical penalty for the yellow card that he would do it again intentionally. Just silly, really, if a penalty is a 50:50 for cynical play refs will remember that and really consider if he is just cheating intentionally. Just silly, we all know it, you don't have to verbalise it.
1) Tipuric was huge. His defensive work was outstanding and I really wonder if he should be in the starting side every week. I know what Warburton brings but I think Tipuric is just that much better.
2) Wallabies were under the pump the whole game. In the first half I saw one stat that had then with only 25% of the ball. Their defensive efforts for whole match were exemplified in that 9 minute period when down to 13 men. Nathan Grey again should be getting massive plaudits for the work he has done, not just in defensive structures but also for instilling a willingness and desire to do the hard work.
3)If I could be bothered to do so I could go back and quote a post I put in during the 2011RWC when Gatland was re-signed. I said then something like the WRU had made a mistake and Gatland had taken the side as far as he could IMO and while they are a strong challenge every game they are totally predictable. Nothing I've seen from Wales and the Lions to a large degree since that time makes me want to revise that. The game plan is just so limited and while as I said above the defence of the Wallabies was outstanding the attack of the Welsh was unimaginative to say the least. The individual skills to draw and commit a defender one on one just poor. That is nothing new.
4) Scrum - Wallabies could put that win down to the scrum, perhaps a first in Australian Rugby?. Winning vital turnovers and penalties at the set piece with genuine dominance gave Joubert no choice, and I doubt anybody would be questioning the validity of those penalties.
5) Douglas - I along with many others struggled to see what he would bring when selected above Horwill and Jones especially given his injury struggles in 2015. I said I thought it was because Chieka was backing hismelf to get the best from Douglas and that level Chieka thought was better than the best level available to Horwill. Well that was proved to me last night. Amazing effort from a lock in defence.
The bad :-
1) I don't think Folau was fit, or anywhere near it. I don't think I've seen him miss so many high balls in his entire Rugby career. His timing was off and his running not very fluid. If he isn't 100% next week give him a rest.
2) Genia - very poor form IMO to say regarding the cynical penalty for the yellow card that he would do it again intentionally. Just silly, really, if a penalty is a 50:50 for cynical play refs will remember that and really consider if he is just cheating intentionally. Just silly, we all know it, you don't have to verbalise it.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
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