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Summer of 16/17

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Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
Need big Games.

220ish is defendable. Needs at least two 50s from Marsh, Maxwell and Wade to give Faulkner and/or Cummins a chance for an 24 off 14 or something.
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
If either of these two survive until the 45th over I think we'll have in excess of 250
 

Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Pretty much all of the Aus batsmen are known as big hitters. Head looks to be the only one (after Smith went first ball) to build an innings around. But he also went when starting to look good. I fear there is no-one else to bat out the innings. Could be all out for less than 200, and maybe lucky to get 150. Might have been a good batting lineup for 20/20, but really doesn't look solid enough for a ODI match.
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Maxwell is now the key.

Faulkner is very handy with the bat and Starc and Cummins can hit a long ball. These two and Faulkner need to get us through to at least the 40th.
 

No4918

John Hipwell (52)
India squad has been announced. Fairly predictable with Swepson the only uncapped player and Maxwell included. I would have preferred Head to Maxwell but oh well. Neville perhaps unlucky but I guess Handscomb did too well filling in.
 

The torpedo

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Pretty decent squad.

Unimpressed by Swepson's bowling avg.

Big Show shouldn't play until the series is lost.

What did everyone think of Handscomb's glovework when he filled in for Wade on day 3?

Also how did he compare to Wade?
 

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
No no no no no no no no.

No Pete keeping. For starters, Wade has been preferred at every level for a reason.

Secondly, his first class batting average is about 20-25 runs worse when he's the first gloveman.

He's a nice luxury to have, particularly if they play 6 batsmen and Smith decides give Wade and his low 130km/hr skidders an over two, but outside T20 even Victoria have typically prefered to bring in 19 year old Sam Harper when Wade's unavailable rather than another batsman/all rounder.
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
How Mitch Marsh got recalled I don't think anyone will ever know. His brother is slightly lucky but not too many issues with that considering his returns in Sri Lanka. He's going to keep the pressure on Khawaja who's returns in the sub-continent have been poor in the past.

Swepson isn't really much of a surprise to me, he's probably our best leg-spin prospect and Smith seems reluctant to bowl himself. If nothing else then the tour should give Swepson a good introduction to the sub-continent and the experience will be invaluable down the track.

I'd have preferred Nevill over Wade but it's pretty hard to argue against Wade after the Gabba ODI.

Feel abit for Cartwright who really did nothing wrong. If the selectors didn't think his style of play would work in India then surely Mitch Marsh wouldn't be the solution either. The alternative was probably Faulkner who would have been a better pick imo.

Of the two 'all-rounders' who can bowl spin I think we're more likely to see Maxwell than Agar in the starting XI. How Head missed out I'm not sure.

I'd like to see:
Warner, Renshaw, S Marsh, Smith, Handscomb, Maxwell, Wade, Starc, SOK, Hazlewood, Swepson/Lyon
 

waiopehu oldboy

Stirling Mortlock (74)
A question for the armchair & any actual umpires on here: Bangladesh's keeper didn't field during the NZ innings (broken finger & possibly thumb depending on which comm you listen to). I was under the impression he therefore can't bat until they're five down in their second innings but Law 2 Substitutes etc makes no mention of this. Am I mistaken or has the Law been tweaked at some stage? Could be an issue as the sub keeper was their opener who left the field on a stretcher & looks to have done himself some major damage in the hip/ thigh area so there's gotta be a reasonable chance of him not being able to bat tomorrow.

BTW if you get the chance, check out Mitchell Satner's brilliant run out to finish Day 4, true he had pretty much three stumps to aim at but he was a fair distance from them & didn't really stop moving at any stage. Superb effort, I'll post a vid if someone puts it on YouTube.
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Pakistan gets its first win v Australia at the MCG since 1985.

Have to wonder if the selectors are regretting the Mitch Marsh selection already. No idea what makes anyone think he's a top 4 (or 5) batsman in any format.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
Tubby made the good point about not having a specialist batsman at four. He's on the money IMHO. There isn't a lot wrong with the make up of the Aussie ODI team, they win a shitload of matches after all, but I think having at least one more specialist batsman in that top six is a good call.
 

Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Feel abit for Cartwright who really did nothing wrong. If the selectors didn't think his style of play would work in India then surely Mitch Marsh wouldn't be the solution either. The alternative was probably Faulkner who would have been a better pick imo.

Of the two 'all-rounders' who can bowl spin I think we're more likely to see Maxwell than Agar in the starting XI. How Head missed out I'm not sure.

I'd like to see:
Warner, Renshaw, S Marsh, Smith, Handscomb, Maxwell, Wade, Starc, SOK, Hazlewood, Swepson/Lyon

I fully agree about Cartwright. He did well enough in the third test and doesn't warrant dropping for M Marsh. I've long been a fan of Marsh since he captained the Aus U19s side, but he needs to spend another year or two at SS level to prove he has the game to rise to test level.

For the life of me, I cannot fathom the decision to take both Maxwell and Agar. One will be left out of the action probably totally while the other might get a bit of a go at some stage. Certainly no chance of both being involved.

Leaving one of Maxwell or Agar at home along with Mitch Marsh would allow both Cartwright and Head to tour. That looks a far stronger lineup to me.

As far as the test team makeup is concerned, I'd see Swepson as being in competition with SOK for the starting spot as both turn the ball away from RH batsmen. Lyon looks to have the orthodox spinners spot tied up.
 

waiopehu oldboy

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Bangladesh's 595/8 decl. is now the highest losing first innings score in Test history, eclipsing Australia's 586 v England in 1894. They're also fifth on the list so clearly have a problem backing up a big first-dig total.

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Some other interesting stats, including Williamson's NZ-record three 100's & second-best (to Sir Don, of course) fourth innings average.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-bangladesh-2016-17/content/story/1077894.html
 

Strewthcobber

Mark Ella (57)
A question for the armchair & any actual umpires on here: Bangladesh's keeper didn't field during the NZ innings (broken finger & possibly thumb depending on which comm you listen to). I was under the impression he therefore can't bat until they're five down in their second innings but Law 2 Substitutes etc makes no mention of this.

Need to look at the ICC test match playing conditions rather than the Laws

http://www.icc-cricket.com/about/91/rules-and-regulations/overview

Don't know the specifics about this case but the penalty time doesn't apply to external blows - so if he was injured by the ball he won't be restricted from batting or bowling
 
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