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2017 TV ratings and crowd figures

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Strewthcobber

Simon Poidevin (60)
I think the A-League is in a bit of trouble in its quest to find new audiences. They just cannot seem to get their huge participation base to translate into avid followers of the local league.
David Gallop is about as popular on some of the soccer forums as Pulver is on here following the recent TV deal they signed! The One ratings are pretty interesting. We sort of assume getting on FTA is an end in itself, but it just shows there's a lot more to it than just getting the coverage, especially as Ten haven't really be putting a lot of effort in to marketing and cross-promotion. At this point, they'd be better off financially and viewer wise if they'd stayed on SBS
The RLWC doing well isn't terribly surprising. But honestly, I've watched a few games and they haven't been all that exciting really. Lacks the theatre of international Rugby.

Yep - I don't think Rugby League being popular in Australia is shocking too many people
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
There's a rugby league world cup on the tellie?

It's also being played in Aus no less. I switched on the TV a couple of weeks ago to see the opening match between Aus and England being played at AAMI park, a few kms from my house. Genuinely the first time I'd heard anything about the cup. But I guess our World Cup is the highest level possible, their world cup is.... 3rd? (SOO, NRL before it).
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
It's also being played in Aus no less. I switched on the TV a couple of weeks ago to see the opening match between Aus and England being played at AAMI park, a few kms from my house. Genuinely the first time I'd heard anything about the cup. But I guess our World Cup is the highest level possible, their world cup is.. 3rd? (SOO, NRL before it).

And while the ratings have been good according to Strewth the turnouts in terms of crowds haven't been great outside of the Samoa vs Tonga and the PNG games so far. Which frankly reflects the quality on the pitch if I'm being completely honest.
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
And while the ratings have been good according to Strewth the turnouts in terms of crowds haven't been great outside of the Samoa vs Tonga and the PNG games so far. Which frankly reflects the quality on the pitch if I'm being completely honest.

Yeah I've watched a few games so far and it honestly seems like a big formality till NZ and Aus get to play each other. Genuinely no tension or excitement.
 

Strewthcobber

Simon Poidevin (60)
No ratings info for the Wales game (not surprising given the kick off time)

NRC GF didn't crack the top 20, so less than 34k.

Anyone seen an NRC crowd estimate anywhere?

Wikipedia has 7,000 for the crowd, but without a source (was free entry)
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Brumby Runner

Jason Little (69)
There were plenty watching from within the recently renovated Vikings Club as well. In my case drinking Asahi Black (on tap) and eating Wagyu beef burger. Service was so slow, given the crowd, that the meal only came out at about half time, so just stayed there and enjoyed the game and dinner.
 

Silverado

Dick Tooth (41)
Yeah I've watched a few games so far and it honestly seems like a big formality till NZ and Aus get to play each other. Genuinely no tension or excitement.
I watched Tonga/NZ game. Big crowd and more tension than Wobs/Wales game. Don't know the ratings but a huge result for Tongans. RL is making big inroads there. Rugby needs to step up, or it will be swamped in the Pacific


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Strewthcobber

Simon Poidevin (60)
I watched Tonga/NZ game. Big crowd and more tension than Wobs/Wales game. Don't know the ratings but a huge result for Tongans. RL is making big inroads there. Rugby needs to step up, or it will be swamped in the Pacific


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NZ v Tonga was a combined 380k on FTA - these are really good numbers for a multi-channel. Pipped for top spot by the Socceroos qualifier 9Gem with 433k Aus v Lebanon was a combined 847k on FTA
 

Silverado

Dick Tooth (41)
^^^^^
Thanks. Was a great spectacle and a huge boost for RL World Cup relevance. Hoping the Wallabies show same passion


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Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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The NRL would be crazy not to introduce a three or four nations each season now that players have shown they are very happy to play for Tonga and Samoa and those sides are good.

The bit that makes it a farce is when players play for Tonga and Samoa because they miss out on selection for Australia or NZ. If those players are nominating straight away for those sides and giving them real credibility it makes it worthwhile and of a good quality.
 

Silverado

Dick Tooth (41)
The NRL would be crazy not to introduce a three or four nations each season now that players have shown they are very happy to play for Tonga and Samoa and those sides are good.

The bit that makes it a farce is when players play for Tonga and Samoa because they miss out on selection for Australia or NZ. If those players are nominating straight away for those sides and giving them real credibility it makes it worthwhile and of a good quality.
The bigger farce is players who would of been selected for NZ or Australia (ie Taumilolo and Fifita) swapping allegiance to Tonga for the World Cup. A dangerous precedent perhaps, but I admit I switched it on out of interest when I probably wouldn't have otherwise.


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Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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The bigger farce is players who would of been selected for NZ or Australia (ie Taumilolo and Fifita) swapping allegiance to Tonga for the World Cup. A dangerous precedent perhaps, but I admit I switched it on out of interest when I probably wouldn't have otherwise.


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I think those 'defections' are what has made it interesting and should pave the way for other players to do the same. The only way it works as a regular concept is if they restrict the ability of those players to keep swapping allegiances and make it such that other players feel encouraged to play for Tonga or Samoa because that is their heritage and they will be good teams, not a consolation prize because you didn't make it into a good team.
 

Strewthcobber

Simon Poidevin (60)
The way we in rugby link national representation with compensation (IE Eligibility for well paying competitions being linked to which country you play for is pretty farcical in itself.

I offer no better solution though

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Silverado

Dick Tooth (41)
The way we in rugby link national representation with compensation (IE Eligibility for well paying competitions being linked to which country you play for is pretty farcical in itself.

I offer no better solution though

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Totally agree. Samoa, Tonga and Fiji are very well represented at international level, just not for their country of heraitage/origin. I don't know the answer, but the Tongans seemed to play with real passion and it's opened up a lot more interest when so called "minnows" can make a World Cup more representative and competitive


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Strewthcobber

Simon Poidevin (60)
2m for Oz v Honduras - shows what happens when you get aa game with meaning and consequence.

Bit over 1m for Oz v Samoa last night in the league

A-league FTA ratings continue to disappoint (averaging mid-60k) and Foxtel numbers are slipping too

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half

Dick Tooth (41)
^^^^^^^^^

Stewth

I have been watching the A-League ratings closely, to see what they could offer in years to come.

Fox are averaging about 71k per match down from 86k at the same time last year and up from 62k the year before.

There FTA numbers are a tad mixed, there ratings this year per match are 87k, the 87 k is the total of both metro and regional and similar to Fox is down on last year but up the year before.

There rating have been up against new competition i.e the RLWC and women’s cricket.

A glaring issue they share with us is they despise their management and the governance of FFA looks like having the current board given the hve ho by FIFA.

Add to this the punch up between Fox N CBS.

Last night we had Australian play in men’s RLWC, Women’s cricket for the ashes, a women’s RlWC match, basketball.

When Super Rugby starts this year it will be up against the second season of women’s AFL, the new 7 a side short field AFL game.

What does it all mean for rugby? IMO it clearly shows a house divided against itself declines across the board. Negativity breads negativity hands up I am as guilty as anyone in this regard.

For me FFA’s experience is they are struggling against new competition in a stale format with key stakeholders infighting.

It looks so similar to what we went through this year.

When I look at rugby today I see a state of near civil war between WA and the rest. I see a competition well beyond stale. I see infighting, ego’s and lack of vision and a game today riddled with self-interest and arse covering.

Soccer has one huge advantage a circuit breaker called FIFA who will step in and clam the waters. WE don’t mores the pity.

So yer a big international not up against anything will heaps on the line will rate. But they must be worried about the fall in numbers , but its been a totally different year for them. I think soon they will have a new and very expansion minded board and if that comes to pass it will be interesting.
 

Silverado

Dick Tooth (41)
Yeah I've watched a few games so far and it honestly seems like a big formality till NZ and Aus get to play each other. Genuinely no tension or excitement.
I take it you didn't see NZ v Tonga or Fiji? Been a pretty compelling tournament. And of course NZ didn't even make the Semis


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WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
I take it you didn't see NZ v Tonga or Fiji? Been a pretty compelling tournament. And of course NZ didn't even make the Semis


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I've watched a few games. Honestly, compelling isn't a word I would use. Outside a handful of games its been quite dry. The NZ/Tonga game had good drama and the performances of Lebanon were admirable but apart from that it's been a bit lacking in my opinion. Even the NZ/Fiji quarter-final didn't really provide much. I found it dire for the most part. Lacks the theatre of Test Match Rugby/
 
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