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Zero_Cool

Zero_Cool

Arch Winning (36)
  • James Slipper
  • Taniela Tupou
  • Izack Rodda
  • Liam Wright
  • Will Genia
  • Jono Lance
  • Samu Kerevi
  • Chris Feauai-Sautia
  • Aidan Toua
8.5 (I count Will-G as a half; you can take the Lad out of Queensland; but you can't take the Queensland out of the LAD) of the XV Rugby.com.au Team of the Week are from the Reds. (Link)
This is more than any other team (Rebels - 6, Brumbies 1). Plus I'm sure if they did a XXIII team of the week much of our bench would feature in the side too; do people think we have the best overall forward pack in Australia at least, where do they fit in the context of Super Rugby!
 
RugbyReg

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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I don't think we have the best overall pack.

I think the Rebels would edge us probably. Better locks and backrow:

Reds: Caleb Timu, George Smith, Scott Higginbotham, Lukhan Tui, Izack Rodda, Taniela Tupou, Brandon Paenga-Amosa, James Slipper

Rebels: Amanaki Mafi, Richard Hardwick, Lopeti Timani, Adam Coleman, Matt Philip, Jermaine Ainsley, Jordan Uelese, Tetera Faulkner

Brumbies is pretty damn good too. But at the moment can't be considered among the best PERFORMING packs

Brumbies: Isi Naisarani, David Pocock, Lachlan McCaffrey, Sam Carter, Rory Arnold, Allan Ala'alatoa, Josh Mann-Rea, Scott Sio
 
Jets

Jets

Paul McLean (56)
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I still don't think finals are something that will happen for us this year. We need to be that team that takes it week by week.

Also I think the Stormers will bounce back after their disappointing tour and make Newlands a fortress. One win on tour and a loosing bonus point would be a good result.
 
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Jets said:
I still don't think finals are something that will happen for us this year. We need to be that team that takes it week by week.

Also I think the Stormers will bounce back after their disappointing tour and make Newlands a fortress. One win on tour and a loosing bonus point would be a good result.
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Agreed, I think the Reds will beat the Jaguares., but I’ve mentally pencilled the Stormers in as a loss.
 
Scrubber2050

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Mark Ella (57)
Zero_Cool said:
I'm not sure it's even that simple (read complex) for example the Brumbies had less wins than the Jaguars but had more overall points; no team even came close to the Brumbies in the losing bonus. (I actually would like to see the bonus points somehow take away from the team not getting them because too often once a loss is clear they can quickly turn into a bonus point loss because there is no penalty for the other team getting a try bonus point or a losing bonus point.)

I don't think we are going to win the conference, not by a long shot, although it is possible. I think if we play finals it'll be on merrit. Looking at last year the top teams were 14 & 1 averaging about 4.5 points a game, the middle teams (Brumbies, Blues & Sharks) were averaging 2 - 2.5 points a game (call it a 50% win percentage and a few bonus points).
At present we are right on pace for that 2.5 points per game, while we are yet to face any really hard teams we have faced the Bulls who beat the Hurricanes, and I think the Brumbies won't be a bad team this year (and I expect them to prove that against the Sharks, who themselves aren't a bad team).

Zero - good stuff

you must be an Actuary

I do agree away games are so valuable, particularly against South African teams; I'm not sure who you'd pick to play in South Africa other than Jaguars and Stormers (maybe swap the Jags for Bulls because travel).
Another thing I'd like to say is I don't think the Sunwolves are quite the joke a lot of people are taking them for, they have over 9000 injuries right now, and a team like them isn't going to have the depth like we at the Reds or someone like the Crusaders have, so expect a few upsets!

If I had to guess, I would expect the lowest scoring team to make finals will be around 40 points, last years raw cut off would have been the Blues with 37, and the actual cut off was the Brumbies with 34. But this year we are proportionally taking more teams (around 55%), we play an extra game, there aren't any really easy beats this year, and there aren't any more easy conferences in addition to only 3 conference winners getting a cushy ride.
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Zero - good post !

You must be an Actuary by profession
 
Zero_Cool

Zero_Cool

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Agreed, I think the Reds will beat the Jaguares, but I’ve mentally pencilled the Stormers in as a loss.
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I'm not so sure about this, the Stormers haven't show a signifincatly dominate scrum to any of their opposition (Highlanders, Crusaders, Waratahs, and Jaguars), so I think it's fair to say we'll likely be around even in the scrum. Their lineout falls over more dramatically than a Brazilian soccer player! So advantage Reds (particularly when you add Higgers back into the mix).
We have all the right personnel to take advantage of their weak lineout -- they are completing less than 75% of their lineouts, that's not even counting how many are disrupted or very nearly stolen.

I think the Stormers will be 'in need of a win' in a similar way to the Blues last week, so I'm expecting they'll 'just get the win', also they'll probably be spanked by the Blues and so will be laying in wait for us.
I'm leaving that square blank at this point, but it'll probably be getting a 1 (losing bonus point) pending a review of our performance against the Jaguars.
 
Zero_Cool

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You're giving me mixed signals
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Hahaha, managing expectations?

But I think a lot will depend on how badly the Storms get spanked by the Blues and how we do against the Jags. It's possible the Stormers come away from the Blues game a broken team, it's also possible that they end up emboldened by an unthinkable win or a gutsy loss. Similarly, if we can weather the initial Jaguars strike it's possible we counter attack and put on points (making Jono Lance look like Quade Cooper); alternatively the Jags could do to us what they did to the Waratahs.
 
emuarse

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Desmond Connor (43)
Zero_Cool said:
Hahaha, managing expectations?

But I think a lot will depend on how badly the Storms get spanked by the Blues and how we do against the Jags. It's possible the Stormers come away from the Blues game a broken team, it's also possible that they end up emboldened by an unthinkable win or a gutsy loss. Similarly, if we can weather the initial Jaguars strike it's possible we counter attack and put on points (making Jono Lance look like Quade Cooper); alternatively the Jags could do to us what they did to the Waratahs.
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:rolleyes::oops::confused::) :eek: - about sums up my feelings toward your hypothesis
 
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emuarse said:
How easy would it be to change to “Reds 20189 Champions” if things don't go according to plan?
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5 laser removal visits should do the trick

should i also point out that the Reds are undefeated at home in the past 3 games... 'Fortress Suncorp' anyone ;)
 
dru

dru

Tim Horan (67)
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5 laser removal visits should do the trick

should i also point out that the Reds are undefeated at home in the past 3 games. 'Fortress Suncorp' anyone ;)
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Just wear a band aid over the lower left side of the 8.
 
Ruggo

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
Reds do have a top pack. Maybe not on paper, but when was the last time you saw paper ram an opposition into the ground?

Forget stupid predictions and expectations. Let's just take the season one game at a time.
 
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