2015 IRB Junior Rugby World Cup - Italy

[Dazzling]

^^^^^^^^^^ no idea @HJ, he seems to fallen off the radar completely, difficult as that may seem for a guy who's 20yo, 205cm & reputedly 140+kg....

Exactly what I thought when I posted the question on the Waratahs 2016 thread. Hope he hasn't completely lost his way.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

^^^^^^ in similar vein, I heard during NZ v Sco that there's a 3rd Ioane brother & he's allegedly "better" than Reiko or Akira....

I heard that as well. Just like the bloody Whitelocks. I hope there isn't a third Savea.

Apparently Dad played for Samoa at RWC in 91, and Mum was a NZ Womens Rugby Team player. Good genes in the Ioane bloodline.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^^^^^^ @Pfitzy posted that he's playing club footy in Waikato but I haven't been able to confirm, nor have I seen any Waikato ITM or Development squads named.

@HJ the only way you'll know you're completely safe is when you see a Savea or Ioane with the given name "Sonny" or "Junior", indicating that Mother has decided enough is enough In this case Mother is Black Fern Sandra Wihongi & Dad is Eddie, Manu Samoa circa RWC 1991. I think the two older boys were born in Japan while their father was playing club footy there, hence their names: Akira = bright (as in clever), Rieko = next-born or similar.

 

[Brian Westlake]

^^^^^^
Are there any more to be concerned about?????

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^^^^^^^^^^ I'm hearing good things about this young'un..........

............ mostly from his mum & dad, but still, the potential's clearly there

 

[Sideline Eye]

Unfortunately the best U 20's thrower was cut from the squad early. Too light. But at least he could throw and scrummage.

. . . . and that is..?

 

[Brian Westlake]

Ed and Nick

 

[Hugh Jarse]

. . and that is..?

You need to ask?

<snip> Craig had a solid game, perfect lineout throws, often first to the breakdown and lots of good cleaning out. Seems to get one or two turnovers most games.

<snip>
I saw Koutsoukis and Serhon today at Knox. Koutsoukis penalised for a crooked throw or two. He seemed good in general play throughout the game, though nothing exceptional (unless it was him that scored the forwards try near the end of the match, falling over the line from the back of a ruck?). <snip>

 

[FrontRowFan]

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You need to ask?

Those quotes seem to be from way back in a 2013 CHS schoolboy selection trial. Interesting.

 

[Brumby Runner]

2010 we physically beat up the Saffers. Robbie Coleman was an amazing 12 and Nic White was outstanding. Got smashed in the final however.

Bleyendahl MOTM. Now there's a name that didn't (or hasn't yet) kicked on.

 

[Marcelo]

Samoan captain was amazing. Best on ground easily. Any background on him?

Any Aussie franchise should hire him

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Josh Dowsing. NZ Schools 2013 out of New Plymouth Boys High. Currently with the University club in Hamilton (team-mate of NZ U20 captain Atunaisa Moli) & Waikato's Development XV.

Josh Dowsing seen here as Samoa Captain for the Oceania U20 tournament. Didn't seem to dominate there as much as he did against us in the big show.

Interesting that Dowsing was not wanted by the NZ U20 selectors after attending their U20 Trial Camp in early March.
http://www.allblacks.com/News/26799/players-named-for-nz-under-20-camp
Good on him for trying an alternate pathway.

 

[FTS]

How ridiculously good is this team on paper, the year we were runners up in 2010.

15. Luke Morahan (Queensland Reds)
14. Dominic Shipperley (Reds Academy)
13. Kimani Situati (Reds Academy)
12. Robbie Coleman (Brumby Runners)
11. Aidan Toua (Reds Academy)
10. Matt To’omua (Eastern Suburbs/Brumbies)
9. Nic White (Brumby Runners)
8. Jake Schatz [c] (Queensland Reds)
7. Liam Gill (Reds Academy)
6. Ed Quirk (Reds Academy)
5. Greg Peterson (Manly/HSBC Junior Waratahs)
4. Phoenix Battye (Sydney University/HSBC Junior Waratahs)
3. Paul Alo-Emile (Reds Academy)
2. Siliva Siliva (Western Force Academy)
1. Salesi Manu (Manly/HSBC Junior Waratahs)
Reserves
16. Sam Roberson (Sydney University/HSBC Junior Waratahs)
17. Cruz Ah-Nau (Western Force Academy)
18. Luke Jones (Sydney University/Western Force)
19. Locky McCaffrey (Eastwood/HSBC Waratahs)
20. Ian Prior (University of Queensland)
21. Jono Lance (Reds Academy)
22. Greg Jeloudev (Sydney University/HSBC Junior Waratahs)

 

[Marcelo]

Where's Cameron Skelton?

 

[Hugh Jarse]

How ridiculously good is this team on paper, the year we were runners up in 2010.

This is what they have achieved since:
15. Luke Morahan (Queensland Reds) - 1 Wallaby Cap, Aust 7's, 48 Reds Caps, 16 & counting Force Caps
14. Dominic Shipperley (Reds Academy)- 3 Wallaby Caps, Aust 7's, 44 Reds Caps, 4 & counting Rebels Caps
13. Kimani Situati (Reds Academy) - Aust 7's, Melbourne Rebels
12. Robbie Coleman (Brumby Runners) - 53 & counting Brumbies Caps
11. Aidan Toua (Reds Academy) - Aust 7's, 10 Reds Caps, Now playing for Agen (FRA)
10. Matt To’omua (Eastern Suburbs/Brumbies) - 21 Wallaby Caps, 69 & counting Brumbies Caps
9. Nic White (Brumby Runners) - 19 Wallaby Caps, 56 & counting Brumbies Caps
8. Jake Schatz [c] (Queensland Reds) - 2 Wallaby Caps, 72 & counting Reds Cap
7. Liam Gill (Reds Academy) - 15 Wallaby Caps, Aust 7's, 59 & counting Reds Cap
6. Ed Quirk (Reds Academy) - 38 & counting Reds Cap
5. Greg Peterson (Manly/HSBC Junior Waratahs) - 3 USA Caps, 1 Waratah Cap, 3 Leicester Tigers caps
4. Phoenix Battye (Sydney University/HSBC Junior Waratahs) - 12 Force Cap, Now playing for Beziers (FRA Pro D2)
3. Paul Alo-Emile (Reds Academy) - 33 & Counting Rebels Caps, 9 Waikato ITM Cup Caps
2. Siliva Siliva (Western Force Academy) - 17 Brumbies Caps, Signed to Rebels for 2016.
1. Salesi Manu (Manly/HSBC Junior Waratahs) - 9 Force Caps, 6 North Harbour ITM Cup Caps, 11 & counting Benetton Treviso Caps
Reserves
16. Sam Roberson (Sydney University/HSBC Junior Waratahs), Emergency injury cover call up for Brumbies but didn't get a Super Rugby Cap. Believed to be retired from rugby, and understood to be back in Bathurst
17. Cruze Ah-Nau (Western Force Academy) - 11 & Counting Caps for Rebels
18. Luke Jones (Sydney University/Western Force)- 3 Wallaby Caps, 2 Force Caps, 44 & counting Rebels Caps
19. Locky McCaffrey (Eastwood/HSBC Waratahs) - 1 Waratahs Cap, 7 Force Caps, 8 Brumbies Caps, Currently with London Welsh
20. Ian Prior (University of Queensland) - 6 Reds Caps, 25 Brumbies Caps, 15 & counting Force Caps
21. Jono Lance (Reds Academy) - 21 Reds Caps, 9 & counting Waratahs Caps
22. Greg Jeloudev (Sydney University/HSBC Junior Waratahs), Aust 7's full time.

Fairly impressive conversion rate.

 

[qwerty51]

Go look at the NZ 2011 team . Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Jaghond]

On an extremely sad note,

Sincerest condolences to the NZ U20 team - and Tana Umaga (JC's cousin) who is in Italy with the team on their coaching staff, following the tragic news about Jerry Collins overnight.

Deepest sympathies with you all.

The Hound

 

[muddy]

Australia U20s to play Italy:
1.Cameron Orr
2.Folau Fainga'a
3.Matt Sandell
4.Ned Hanigan
5.Lukhan Lealaiauloto-tui
6.Brad Wilkin
7.Michael Gunn
8.Adam Korczyk
9.James Tuttle
10.Andrew Deegan
11.Andrew Kellaway (C)
12.Duncan Paia’aua
13.Sione Tuipolotu
14.Conrad Quick
15.Jonah Placid

Reserves
16.Fereti Saaga
17.Connal McInerney
18.Tyrel Lomax
19.Riley Winter
20.Sam Croke
21.Harry Nucifora
22.James Dalgleish
23.Tyson Davis

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Archie Russell (Scotland) & Elia Elia (Samoa) both suspended for two matches for dangerous tackles:

http://www.worldrugby.org/u20/news/74910

 

[Lee Grant]

I was wrong about there being a lot of changes in the game for Italy: they have been minimal.

Just as this team is a slight change from the first game; so this team won't be changed much for the third with changes back being on the cards.

Australia U20s to play Italy:

2.Folau Fainga'a
6.Brad Wilkin
12.Duncan Paia’aua
13.Sione Tuipolotu
14.Conrad Quick

2. No surprise here but I thought LHP Pleash would get a shot as he did at Chatswood.

6. Replaces Fakaosilea, maybe Lolo got a knock but he didn't have a lot of participations, as usual, and Wilkin had to get a start in one of the games.

12. Had a grand game coming off the bench at Chtaswood but Paia'aua looks more like a runner to me than a facilitator. I hope I am wrong and the ball goes out. Placid has to be given a licence to hog but I hope we don't have too many of them do it.

13. Switched from 12 - I haven't see Sione T play 13. Magnay didn't do a lot against Samoa, not that he got the ball very often. Maybe there's an in jury but worth a try regardless.

14. Newsome is a Steady-Eddie player who won't let you down but he is not a rainmaker; so fair enough to try somebody else.

It may seem that Deegan is lucky to keep his spot but Thompson will know that his last game was an aberration—goal kicking included.
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