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2012 S15 New Kids on the Block

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Lachlan

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Inman is too slow. Kingston is too small.

13 should go first to AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper). Then Horne- he might be in poor form but that's no surprise given how the Waratahs have been playing. I'd be interested to see Luke Morahan there. Or maybe Nick Cummins. Anthony Fainga'a isn't a bad option either.
Poor defender with no heart for the tough stuff... What do people see in him as a 13? Nick Cummins on the other hand - the nickname says it all. The Honey Badger has all the right attributes, sans the passing game which may be developed in time.
 

Forcefield

Ken Catchpole (46)
AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) doesn't have that crash hot a passing game. Nick Cummins needs to focus a bit on ball handling too.
 

Dan54

Tim Horan (67)
I got to say Oomaga-Allen the young prop for Canes is starting to impress me, hell he came from left field he hasn't even played ITM cup and at 21 could well develop into something good.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
I missed the Cheetah youngsters.

Johan Goosen. Told you about him back in October 2010 in the Schoolboy Section.

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/community/threads/johan-goosen-monster-kick.5976/

If he keep on playing like he do after 4 rounds, he'll get pretty close wearing green and gold this year.

Sport24
Goosen: S15 miracle man

2012-03-22 12:30
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Johan Goosen (Gallo)
Rob Houwing, Sport24 chief writer

Cape Town – The season may be very young but there has been an auspicious start statistically by the Cheetahs’ exciting, rookie flyhalf Johan Goosen.
Stats issued by the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper (via the Rugby Heaven website) this week indicate that the 19-year-old, playing his first season at this level, heads up several categories after four weeks of activity.
Goosen is the leading points scorer, just for starters, with 65 – an eight-point cushion over the Hurricanes’ similarly raw Beauden Barrett in second spot.
He has also kicked the most penalty goals (16), just ahead of the Reds’ now-injured Mike Harris with 15.
Goosen also shares most conversions (seven) with all of the Chiefs’ Aaron Cruden and compatriots Morne Steyn (Bulls) and Pat Lambie (Sharks).
Always renowned for the prodigious distance he gets off his boot, whether from the tee or out of hand, the Cheetahs man also boasts the most kick metres (1 607m), ahead of the Stormers’ diminutive fullback Joe Pietersen (1 338m).
As if to demonstrate that he is not just a metronomic kicker, significantly, Goosen is sixth for “most running metres” and the best flyhalf in this category (273m). Top of the pile here is the Chiefs’ ever-popular inside centre Sonny Bill Williams.
Williams unsurprisingly also leads the category for his forte, most off-loads (11), with Goosen next best-placed with nine ... only further illustrating the roundedness of his game?
Goosen will do well to stay at the stats forefront this weekend: the Cheetahs play the mighty Crusaders in Christchurch, with not too many people tipping them to even get close on the scoreboard, although they come off a rousing tour win against the Rebels.

This weekend his biggest test against Carter.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
I vote we adopt the Fox Sports nickname of "Duck Duck" for him
G is pronounce totally different in afrikaans compare to english. Funny the way the english commentators specially the Aussie lot rape the afrikaans surnames. Goosen in afrikaans is not even close to Goose in english.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Every commentator I've heard so far have called him "Yo-hun Hue-sin" that's correct isn't it?
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Every commentator I've heard so far have called him "Yo-hun Hue-sin" that's correct isn't it?
J the other one. Wish my Ierse broer Thommo was still on board, he can explain this the best way. Hougaard the other one that sound like Houhart the way they pronounce it. G obvious the problem for the english people. R another one. In afrikaans you get a lot of people in my region who what we call brei with its pronouncing R in english is something totally diffirent.
 

SuperGrover

Darby Loudon (17)
Rugby365.com has an article naming the top 10 rookies of 2012.

Ben Tameifuna
20-year-old
Tighthead prop
Chiefs

The big front ranker was called on as emergency cover for the Chiefs initially, but it might be tough for anyone to get the No.3 jersey off him this season. The former New Zealand Under-20 ace is a massive unit at 134kgs, and looks to share his passion for rugby in the Chiefs front row with his cousin Sona Taumololo.

Eben Etzebeth
20-year-old
Lock
Stormers

The former UCT Ikeys enforcer looks to be the kind of second row bruiser that South Africa has been calling for to take up the mantle from Bakkies Botha. For a youngster in the second row Etzebeth has adapted brilliantly to the rigours of Super Rugby and hasn't taken a step backwards since pulling on a Stormers jersey.

Brodie Retallick
20-year-old
Lock
Chiefs

Standing at 2.04m, Retallick is a man mountain and has already shown he is a skillful line-out jumper. The big forward was in the winning Baby Blacks team that lifted the IRB Junior World Championships and has made a big impact in the engine room for the Chiefs this season, and is very athletic for such a big man.

Marcell Coetzee
20-year-old
Loose forward
Sharks

Despite having played a handful of matches midway through last season's Super Rugby campaign, this is Coetzee's first year as a regular - qualifying him for a place amongst the rookies. The impressive loose forward is capable of playing all across the back row, and has proved to be a handy ball carrier and solid defender for the Sharks this year.

Siya Kolisi
20-year-old
Loose forward
Stormers

Kolisi has been a revelation since replacing injured Stormers skipper Schalk Burger. The strong flank was on the fringes of the team last year, and has grabbed his chance during this campaign brilliantly with some outstanding tackling in particular as his major weapon. It's no easy task filling Burger's boots, but Kolisi has done a great job (playing out of position? Usually a blindside but has tackled his ass off as an openside not as much ball carrying).

TJ Perenara
19-year-old
Scrumhalf
Hurricanes

The 'Canes scrumhalf appears to be the cream of the crop in a fantastic batch of young No.9s in New Zealand. Perenara captained the New Zealand Schools side in 2010, and was part of last year's victorious Baby Blacks team. His hat-trick in his first start for the Hurricanes showcased his BMT and willingness to take on players more than twice his size.

Beauden Barrett
20-year-old
Flyhalf
Hurricanes

Barrett made four very brief appearances off the bench for the 'Canes last season while Aaron Cruden was injured, but has only made a real mark this year. Surprisingly he played at fullback for the Baby Blacks last year, as there was an abundance of flyhalves, but it has been in the No.10 jersey that he has made everyone sit up and take notice this season with his creative play and eye for a gap.

Johan Goosen
19-year-old
Flyhalf
Cheetahs

The Golden Goose has been spotted early as something special, and has the full range of skill and more talent than you can shake a stick at. If Goosen reaches his full potential then there could be a new superstar emerging. The youngster has a good head on his shoulders and is able to control the game, put in big tackles and land drop-goals from the 50m mark - he needs to be carefully looked after.

Jesse Mogg
22-year-old
Utility back
Brumbies

The best of the young Australians cutting their teeth at Super Rugby level for the first time this year is the Brumbies backline starlet. Mogg has proved that he has a great turn of pace, a big boot and can operate out on the wing or at fullback. While he is yet to come up against any serious tests, he is a finisher and picks his moment to join the line well, scoring a try on debut against the Force.

Willie le Roux
22-year-old
Utility back
Cheetahs

The unpredictable utility back has an incredible natural instinct for attacking play, and is one of those rare players able to create something from nothing. Le Roux has operated out on the wing for the Cheetahs, but is often more effective as a flyhalf or fullback - where he played for the Boland Cavaliers last year.


It certainly looks like SA and NZ have the better 2012 rookie vintage. Especially some of those SA forwards.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Johan Goosen have been a real revolation for us. If you have a look at the S15 stats he is the real full Monty and something really special coming through. SA have been struggling now for some time to replace Honiball and all of a sudden we have a range of up and coming 10s like Lambie, Goosen, Jantjies.

Wish I can get the individual player stats , the closest I can find is from
http://livescores.smh.com.au/rugby/super15/player-stats.html?refresh=1332914357986

Most Points 1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 81
2. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 66
5. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 59
13. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 37
16. Butch James (Lions) 26
Most Conversions
1. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 12
2. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 10
3. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 8
13. Butch James (Lions) 3
Most Penalty Goals
1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 19
6. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 13
6. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 13
10. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 11
16. Butch James (Lions) 5

Most Drop Goals
1. Gary van Aswegen (Stormers) 1
1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 1
1. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 1
Most Runs
15. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 39
Most Run Metres
2. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 372

Most Kicks
1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 52
5. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 35
6. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 33
Most Kick Metres
1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 1922
3. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 1421
6. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 1020

Most Try Assists
13. Peter Grant (Stormers) 1

Most Linebreak Assists
2. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 3
13. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 1

Most Offloads
1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 11

Most Turnovers
11. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 10
 

suckerforred

Chilla Wilson (44)
Just confirmed that the Golden Goose in my fantsay side. As a supporter of a team that has managed to break all of the 10's that have started for them over the last 2 years I am jealous of the current crop in NZ and SA.....:(
 
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