AAGPS (NSW) Rowing 2013 Season

[The Yugoslavian Wolf]

"It appears to be Newingtons old boat, their sloppy seconds, so to say!"

Wolf Out.

Mr. Wolf this statement is clearly a bias statement about the social hierarchy of the kingsmen. This 'Sloppy Seconds' would be reversing this age-old system within the GPS. King's are merely trialling this boat, and apparently had to use dis-infectant on the boat to stop the spread on diseases into their boatshed from previous groundlings. We'll leave the results up to the bookies..

It seems that the results were left to the bookies, and they chose Newington over your good Kings.

 

[Playmaker]

Interesting week on the Parramatta river this week gents, any guesses who bounces back/makes a move this week? any thoughts on TKS 2nd VIII who are constantly battling for 1st place.

 

[The Yugoslavian Wolf]

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ummmmm excuse me ... last 4 years. and all winning margins over 10 seconds mofo. chew on that GPS Row.

Long live the warriors

Fellas, Fellas, Kings and Newington have a proud history together, playing the first schoolboy rugby game and being 2 out of the 3 oldest schools in our humble GPS, lets all get along. Obviously Kings' 3rd VIII has had some success and im very happy for them, but lets leave the crud talk out, our main focus on this forum is to get some inside info and have solid discussions about the 1st and 2nd VIII, and an occasional IV drama. Keen to see how the state championships go. Anything anybody wants to say after saturday?

 

[The Yugoslavian Wolf]

Interesting week on the Parramatta river this week gents, any guesses who bounces back/makes a move this week? any thoughts on TKS 2nd VIII who are constantly battling for 1st place.

Id like to think Newington will make a bounce back, but of course im a little biased. There 1st VIII struggled off the start but came through in the middle thousand, lets see how they work it on the weekend. Kings looked strong out of the start but faded in the 3rd 500, Scots much the same, although they made a last ditch effort to combat Newingtons push. Joeys came through the field astoundingly during their middle 1000, from 7th to 2nd, good effort from the boys in Pink (Oops, i mean...Cerise..), St Ignatius looked strong throughout the race, taking it out with Shore, who as always looked strong. Reports from my 'technical advisers' said noone looked to strong in that field, could be a pulling and size race this year, which may put Newington on the back foot, and Shore on the front. Didnt catch the 2nd VIII race, however i hear it was just as technically adherent as the first race, barr the Scots 2nd VIII, who looked consistent. Numerous dark horses in both races, this weekend should be a challenge as most crews are competing in 2-4 races. A real test of character for all crews. See you out there fellas.

Wolf Out.

 

[fpiglet]

Id like to think Newington will make a bounce back, but of course im a little biased. There 1st VIII struggled off the start but came through in the middle thousand, lets see how they work it on the weekend. Kings looked strong out of the start but faded in the 3rd 500, Scots much the same, although they made a last ditch effort to combat Newingtons push. Joeys came through the field astoundingly during their middle 1000, from 7th to 2nd, good effort from the boys in Pink (Oops, i mean.Cerise..), St Ignatius looked strong throughout the race, taking it out with Shore, who as always looked strong. Reports from my 'technical advisers' said noone looked to strong in that field, could be a pulling and size race this year, which may put Newington on the back foot, and Shore on the front. Didnt catch the 2nd VIII race, however i hear it was just as technically adherent as the first race, barr the Scots 2nd VIII, who looked consistent. Numerous dark horses in both races, this weekend should be a challenge as most crews are competing in 2-4 races. A real test of character for all crews. See you out there fellas.

Wolf Out.

I wonder how many crews row from 7th to 2nd? I'm not quite convinced 'technical advisers' were spluttering through their sage words. Shore have everything on the line. Looks like a few crews who can unnerve them at several stages in the race. For example, Riverview at the start but can their throttle down and lengthen through? Watch out for a fast finishing Grammar. When the other crews are tiring a crew with a finish like that can slip through. At the end of the day, who cares if you win the first 500M in the HOTR? It's the pointy end that counts.

 

[fpiglet]

The problem with the Kings/PLC Regatta is that its such a drawn out day. With crews having to wait around for the girls sculling, Year 8s etc etc it's no wonder most crews bale for the final Under 19 (or whatever) race at the end of the day. It's draining sitting around in such a godforsaken place waiting to race again. The social side for the rowers probably has an upside. Kings has to wait all day as it's their regatta and notionally do a row through 'cause there isn't that much competition left around. Still eight seconds off the pace but sure does look good for the front cover of the School newsletter.... Maybe PLC should do the morning and the boys the afternoon or vice a versa?

 

[HOTRwinner]

The problem with the Kings/PLC Regatta is that its such a drawn out day. With crews having to wait around for the girls sculling, Year 8s etc etc it's no wonder most crews bale for the final Under 19 (or whatever) race at the end of the day. It's draining sitting around in such a godforsaken place waiting to race again. The social side for the rowers probably has an upside. Kings has to wait all day as it's their regatta and notionally do a row through 'cause there isn't that much competition left around. Still eight seconds off the pace but sure does look good for the front cover of the School newsletter.. Maybe PLC should do the morning and the boys the afternoon or vice a versa?

This may be true, but making excuses for how long the boys have to wait isn't a fair call. Kings/PLC regatta has been around for years. The girls races are just as important as the boys. Many girls had to wait around for their doubles at 2 in the afternoon and some races just before the 1st 8 boys races. There are only 2 mixed regattas for a reason but i do question why they make this regatta so close to HOTR. Hardly any of the boys schools socialised with the girls and were told to steer clear. The point of the regatta is to be mixed. So having PLC regatta in the morning and the boys later in the afternoon would defeat the point.

 

[The Yugoslavian Wolf]

Go the Newington 3rd IV. Thoughts on the IV's results throughout last saturday?/

Yessss, well it seems they havent been up to standard according to GPSrow. Didnt really catch the 4's i came out for the 1st and 2nd VIIIs, sorry mate.

Wolf Out.

 

[GPS Contender]

Well Wolfy Boy, I caught the viii's and the iv's and to be perfectly honest some of the blade work in the iv's was clearly better than some talked up viii's............no schools mentioned of coarse! I think the NC iv's could have a crack this year if they just manned up and RACED. They need to learn how to HURT. And it's not just the New boys either. golden Lions are you there ??? Oh and by the way......... It's Pink.

 

[The GPS Rower]

well another week has come around, passing hump day now and we are ready for another round. lets battle it out this weekend and hope to see some more convincing results. At the moment, I see it as a pretty close field with Joeys, Shore, View leading the pack with New, Kings, Grammer, High and Scots (who may be foxing their crews) trailing the pack. A domination last weekend from Shore in 1st 8, 2nd 8, 1st Jn 8, 2nd Jn 8, 3rd Jn 8, 4th Jn 8 once again showing their dominance and their solid coaching attitudes continuing even without the great Bob Shirlaw. He seems to be making big changes at Joeys though; turning their rugby players into rowers. Again at SIRC this weekend, i shall be out there watching all races this time, set for the sun to shine, the skin to brown, and to see the boys/men battle it out.

Its the pointy end of the season

 

[HOTRwinner]

Scots have at least two back from last years 1stVIII and look to have the goods but constantly disappoint. Something really wrong is going on with their program. Or are they just messing with Shore by coming fifth...

But then again how can a crew like kings be capable of a first 500 doing sub 1:28 and finish with a 1:35 for the last 500 to place 7th. This looks like a serious fitness issue.

 

[fpiglet]

This may be true, but making excuses for how long the boys have to wait isn't a fair call. Kings/PLC regatta has been around for years. The girls races are just as important as the boys. Many girls had to wait around for their doubles at 2 in the afternoon and some races just before the 1st 8 boys races. There are only 2 mixed regattas for a reason but i do question why they make this regatta so close to HOTR. Hardly any of the boys schools socialised with the girls and were told to steer clear. The point of the regatta is to be mixed. So having PLC regatta in the morning and the boys later in the afternoon would defeat the point.

Didn't say the girls races weren't important and really the point is that the regatta is mixed??? Say what? Didn't realise it's meant to be social rowing speed date event but as you pointed out they don't mix so wt...? The girls can take am or pm but bunch each together. It's hard to slot in any GPS regattas now the season has been shortened so it has to be close if it's still a GPS regatta.

 

[gilbert15]

Does anyone know where, in the weekends programme, the yr10 VIII's race?

 

[gilbert15]

[quote="HOTRwinner, post: 446331, member: 10136'']

But then again how can a crew like kings be capable of a first 500 doing sub 1:28 and finish with a 1:35 for the last 500 to place 7th. This looks like a serious fitness issue.[/quote]





That's a good question, years gone bye, they have dominated the lesser races, eg, IV's & yr10 VIII's etc, but totally unable to translate that into 1st VIII success. Training? coaching? commitment?

 

[The Yugoslavian Wolf]

Well Wolfy Boy, I caught the viii's and the iv's and to be perfectly honest some of the blade work in the iv's was clearly better than some talked up viii's....no schools mentioned of coarse! I think the NC iv's could have a crack this year if they just manned up and RACED. They need to learn how to HURT. And it's not just the New boys either. golden Lions are you there ??? Oh and by the way... It's Pink.

Yes i agree, the fours have rarely really had a dig this season. Unlike the VII's it seems as though they dont want to hurt for their goal. This is how Shore have won. Anywho as its getting close to our humble saturday voyage to Penrith, whats your picks for the big boys? (1st/2nd VIII, give me the whole lineup fellas)

Wolf Out.

 

[HOTRwinner]

[quote="HOTRwinner, post: 446331, member: 10136'']

But then again how can a crew like kings be capable of a first 500 doing sub 1:28 and finish with a 1:35 for the last 500 to place 7th. This looks like a serious fitness issue.

That's a good question, years gone bye, they have dominated the lesser races, eg, IV's & yr10 VIII's etc, but totally unable to translate that into 1st VIII success. Training? coaching? commitment?[/quote]



I completely agree. Kings 1stV111 pulled a 6:09.21 but it is interesting to see that their 2ndVIII 6:13.78 and were only 4 seconds behind. With the 1st placing 7th and the 2nds placing 2nd. It looks like the kings crew might have a good chance.

Newington regatta, the 2nd V111 had 2 regatta with the crews spilt up. The first race with Shore winning pulling a 5:02.70. The second race with kings coming 1st pulling a 5:12.03. Placing them overall within the 2 races second and joeys 3rd. They are showing positive signs with consistant results. But lets not forget that regatta was only 1500 m. Interesting to see this weekend what happens at state.

 

[HOTRwinner]

I completely agree. Kings 1stV111 pulled a 6:09.21 but it is interesting to see that their 2ndVIII 6:13.78 and were only 4 seconds behind. With the 1st placing 7th and the 2nds placing 2nd. It looks like the kings 2nd crew might have a good chance.

Newington regatta, the 2nd V111 had 2 split races. The first race with Shore winning pulling a 5:02.70. The second race with kings coming 1st pulling a 5:12.03. Placing them overall within the 2 races second and joeys 3rd. They are showing positive signs with consistant results. But lets not forget that regatta was only 1500 m. Interesting to see this weekend what happens at state.
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[The GPS Rower]

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I completely agree. Kings 1stV111 pulled a 6:09.21 but it is interesting to see that their 2ndVIII 6:13.78 and were only 4 seconds behind. With the 1st placing 7th and the 2nds placing 2nd. It looks like the kings 2nd crew might have a good chance. ​

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Newington regatta, the 2nd V111 had 2 split races. The first race with Shore winning pulling a 5:02.70. The second race with kings coming 1st pulling a 5:12.03. Placing them overall within the 2 races second and joeys 3rd. They are showing positive signs with consistant results. But lets not forget that regatta was only 1500 m. Interesting to see this weekend what happens at state. ​

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interest insights there HOTRwinner. Wolf, im picking shore this weekend, followed by joeys,
then new, then grammar/view. will be an interesting weekend. One thing i know for shore, the Newington 3IV will not place!!!

 

[The Yugoslavian Wolf]

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interest insights there HOTRwinner. Wolf, im picking shore this weekend, followed by joeys,
then new, then grammar/view. will be an interesting weekend. One thing i know for shore, the Newington 3IV will not place!!!

Mr Rower, i like your insights. Hoping somebody conquers the mighty shore this weekend, may play up on their confidence for the Big one. Any crew changes from anyone? Anybody got Team lists?

Wolf out.

 

[The GPS Rower]

just heard some inside on the newington 8 for the weekend:

mitchel atkins, tony archigen, zac robertson, sam hardy, harry hunt, fraser lecky, aiden sullivan, andrew perich