Australian Rugby / RA
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The Shelton Shibboleths?
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Well, prepare to be flabbergasted.
Spruce Moose
Fred Wood (13)
This is about de-risking. There was a risk to both sides of a prolonged legal case with huge legal fees that neither side were likely to get back, especially with prolonged appeals etc. I think the mediation is probably the best outcome, RA could easily have spent many millions and won the case the same for Folau (he was never going to get the 14 million).
I could be wrong but I think the figure will be around 2 - 4 million mark likely, with the apology required to help with Folau's future employment opportunities (this would be a way around Folau's claim that RA are impeding his future earnings).
I could be wrong but I think the figure will be around 2 - 4 million mark likely, with the apology required to help with Folau's future employment opportunities (this would be a way around Folau's claim that RA are impeding his future earnings).
Aurelius
Ted Thorn (20)
I think RA also would have been keen to spare themselves this spectacle:
Link to the article here:https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...g/news-story/18939b67f39405e891d8f419c020f010
Spruce Moose
Fred Wood (13)
Yeah it would have been a sh*tshow. I'm unsure if ultimately they would been allowed to testify as I'm unsure any of the players are experts on employment law or discrimination, but it would have been down to the judge on the day which is a risk. However it shows that both sides were probably ready to fight dirty as is common in unfair dismissal cases. No one wants their dirty laundry aired in a public domain, getting Issy on the stand would have been equally interesting and probably something his legal team were keen to avoid.
Froggy
John Solomon (38)
Well, we role into 2020 with the Folau saga over, a new Wallaby coach (and for Tahs fans, a new Tahs coach), Clyne leaving in the first half of the year and about half the Wallabies moving on.
It's a new year, a new era, let's get excited, I'm really looking forward to it!!!
It's a new year, a new era, let's get excited, I'm really looking forward to it!!!
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Or any chance of Folau playing any pro football code in Australia.
I am not even sure French or Japense clubs would touch him personally as too much risk
I am not even sure French or Japense clubs would touch him personally as too much risk
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Will we by looking at RAs annual accounts be able to work out how much Folau was paid out?
Spruce Moose
Fred Wood (13)
Up to the RA and the agreement.
Its not a sure thing that it would have been a lump sum payment or multiple payments spread over a time period.
Also easy with accounting tricks to spread the payment through departments etc.
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
Fuck yeah. Something to be positive about.
A Rugby organisation is Australia having dodgy accounting procedures?? As if!
Benaud
Tom Lawton (22)
That was my first thought too but probably not. How much the insurer paid will remain unknown. How much of a hit RA took could be obscured by deferred payments and various classifications for payments, assuming they are even required to disclose it (not sure on the legalities regarding requirements to conceal/reveal confidential payments on books).
I'm starting to think we're not going to find out.
It's almost a certainty that the insurer drove the mediation process, probably far more than RA. Happens all the time in Medical and other indemnity cases, this would be much the same.
Having been through a drawn-out, expensive and frustrating mediation process in the past, as the lawyers said to me, if all parties are not particularly happy, it has probably gone as well as possible! You have to accept stuff that sticks in your craw for the sake of finishing the bloody thing.
Having been through a drawn-out, expensive and frustrating mediation process in the past, as the lawyers said to me, if all parties are not particularly happy, it has probably gone as well as possible! You have to accept stuff that sticks in your craw for the sake of finishing the bloody thing.
kiap
Steve Williams (59)
No freezed peach test case means the pledges supposedly get returned (minus a few costs, natch):
Folau's unlawful termination campaign collected up to $3 million in donations through the Australian Christian Lobby. ACL director Martin Iles said donations would be refunded "on a pro-rata basis" and donors would be contacted in due course.
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That money went into a trust fund specifically for legal costs.
ACL has offered to refund donated money if requested by donors.
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Plenty of people would watch him play and applaud his return to the field.
It's probably unlikely he'll play for an Australian team again but he'll be playing somewhere.