RebelYell
Arch Winning (36)
Ok, I'll pay that. That point aside, her performance has been extremely poor for the entirety of her tenure.
This has nothing to do with her being a woman, and everything to do with her not being good at her job.
Australian Rugby / RA
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Ok, I'll pay that. That point aside, her performance has been extremely poor for the entirety of her tenure.
This has nothing to do with her being a woman, and everything to do with her not being good at her job.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Reasons?
Because I completely disagree, and am quite supportive of her actions in a number of areas including the sacking of Folau and ultimately how that was resolved, Australian coaching appointments, and taking the broadcast rights to market.
A lot of us disagree strongly on this. I think her performance has been far better than her predecessors and she has had far more difficult issues to deal with.
Pulver had the Western Force and Beale/McKenzie/Patston and it's hard to imagine how any of those issues could have been dealt with worse.
John O'Neill firstly blew Australia's windfall from the 2003 RWC on largesse both in terms of staff and corporate costs and then when he returned the second time did nothing notable except left with a large golden handshake.
Gary Flowers is notable for introducing the ARC but spending so much money on it that it was never sustainable. Maybe we'd be in a much stronger position now if that competition had been started with a more modest approach that was sustainable.
A 12.5% paycut annually if that is all it is.
Any decisions being made should be in roughly three month increments. The future is unknown. The next move in July might have to be to cut even harder or it might be more of a return to normal operations. No one knows at this stage.
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
People hate on Raelene because they need someone to blame.
She really hasn't done anything wrong. At best, some largely religious people disagree with her approach to the IF saga. But i'd argue people would be pissed regardless of how she approached that clusterfuck. There was no outright win possible.
To add to BH's list above, she got to work immediately improving development pathways and securing the next generation of talent which shows a lot of promise.
She really hasn't done anything wrong. At best, some largely religious people disagree with her approach to the IF saga. But i'd argue people would be pissed regardless of how she approached that clusterfuck. There was no outright win possible.
To add to BH's list above, she got to work immediately improving development pathways and securing the next generation of talent which shows a lot of promise.
RebelYell
Arch Winning (36)
She cost the code $4 million by not inserting a clause in Israel's contract preventing him from what he did. FACT.
She turned down a broadcast deal which was singificantly greater than market value, regardless as to what has happened in the world since then. FACT
She allowed a Wallabies Head Coach to continue in a role and develop poisonous factions within her employ despite him failing to achieve acceptable results, leading to a splintered playing group and Board. FACT
She has not stood up for Australia sufficiently at a SANZAAR or World Rugby level, leading to losing the WRWC bid, and seeing the Super Rugby competition continue to move towards a model which is unpalatable for the Australian franchises commercially. FACT
She has consistently performed poorly in a media context, and has shown an inability to communicate clearly, develop genuine relationships in the press and be a positive representative of the game. FACT
There are bucketloads of FACTS for why she has performed poorly, and if you retrace this thread you will see plenty of examples. People who like and support her are unlikely to change their minds, ditto people who don't, however the suggestion that so many of us only want her fired due to her gender is completely incorrect. She is extremely unfortunate in what she inherited from Bill Pulver, and in the current pandemic, but that doesn't make her immune from critique.
FWIW, I too am pleased with some of the coaching appointments and the progress in elite development (Schoolboys, Junior Wallabies), as well as the development of Super W.
She turned down a broadcast deal which was singificantly greater than market value, regardless as to what has happened in the world since then. FACT
She allowed a Wallabies Head Coach to continue in a role and develop poisonous factions within her employ despite him failing to achieve acceptable results, leading to a splintered playing group and Board. FACT
She has not stood up for Australia sufficiently at a SANZAAR or World Rugby level, leading to losing the WRWC bid, and seeing the Super Rugby competition continue to move towards a model which is unpalatable for the Australian franchises commercially. FACT
She has consistently performed poorly in a media context, and has shown an inability to communicate clearly, develop genuine relationships in the press and be a positive representative of the game. FACT
There are bucketloads of FACTS for why she has performed poorly, and if you retrace this thread you will see plenty of examples. People who like and support her are unlikely to change their minds, ditto people who don't, however the suggestion that so many of us only want her fired due to her gender is completely incorrect. She is extremely unfortunate in what she inherited from Bill Pulver, and in the current pandemic, but that doesn't make her immune from critique.
FWIW, I too am pleased with some of the coaching appointments and the progress in elite development (Schoolboys, Junior Wallabies), as well as the development of Super W.
RebelYell
Arch Winning (36)
Not offering him a contract of that size and length without inserting a social media clause, would have been the outright win. And no, I am not relgiious
The Honey Badger
Jim Lenehan (48)
I actually thought it was her one redeeming action. She was certainly heading in the right direction to get live content on Free to Air.
Finsbury Girl
Trevor Allan (34)
Er no it isn't.
They should be able to answer any question around going concern in a worst case scenario RIGHT NOW. End of.
If they cannot then it is further proof of sheer incompetence.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
No, RA were covered by their code of conduct which Folau agreed to when he signed the contract, which he later breached, and for which he was eventually terminated..........
Micheal
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
These three are literally just opinions.
The Israel Folau thing we don't have enough information to comment on - but RA's reported loss relative to 2015 seems to indicate it wasn't anywhere in the ball park of $4 million - nor do we have enough information to comment on the broadcast deal.
Allowing Cheika to "continue" was contractually guranteed. If she'd terminated him she would've cost RA a bucket load of cash, something you indicated that you clearly don't like based upon your Folau comment.
I suggest you revisit the definition of 'fact'.
FACT.
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Another criticism I have of RA is its long term agenda of paying over the odds salaries for the CEO.
If newspaper reports are any guide, RC started in Jan 2018 on $760,000 p.a. and until Tuesday was on $840,000.
It seems the Board assessed her each year as "meeting or exceeding KPIs" and gave her a 5% increase.
RA paid an excessive amount for what the CEO actually achieves, unfortunately in line with all other professional sports in Australia.
Yes, Olympic/NRL/AFL leaders get paid big sums too, but RA didn't have to follow that pathway.
For that amount of money, RC should have spent time informing RUPA of RA's full financial position, but she didn't.
If newspaper reports are any guide, RC started in Jan 2018 on $760,000 p.a. and until Tuesday was on $840,000.
It seems the Board assessed her each year as "meeting or exceeding KPIs" and gave her a 5% increase.
RA paid an excessive amount for what the CEO actually achieves, unfortunately in line with all other professional sports in Australia.
Yes, Olympic/NRL/AFL leaders get paid big sums too, but RA didn't have to follow that pathway.
For that amount of money, RC should have spent time informing RUPA of RA's full financial position, but she didn't.
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Scott Johnson was available.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
I rest my case.........
Rebels3
Jim Lenehan (48)
Actually the RUPA agreement with RA prevents players to have individualized contracts. All players signed must be signed under the same terms and conditions as all other players. It would be something that would have to be renegotiated under the next collective bargaining agreement. Israel Folau (like him or love him) was one of the few players that commercially brought about a positive commercial return for the game.
RebelYell
Arch Winning (36)
I try not to bite too often on here, but this is spreading incorrect information.
RUPA/the players are able to make exceptions to this clause if the alternative is that the player is not going to be offered a contract, and it has been widely reported that JOC (James O'Connor), Karmichael & Kurtley have all had contracts negotiated under these conditions