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Australian Schoolboys & National Championships 2012

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David Connors

Sydney Middleton (9)
my apologies, browsing a few different threads, thought i was still in NSW schools, interesting thought though, has any dominant school ever got more than a couple of players from its team into Aus schoolboys?
state high had quite few players in Oz schools from their 2009 1st XV i think
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Stokes,
State High 2009 would be my nomination after having 12 players in QLD I, can't recall the exact figure of Oz Schools players but there was a fairly impressive prop by the name of Paul Alo-Emile and a few others. Might have to phone a friend, Lee..
 

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Ted Thorn (20)
state high had quite few players in Oz schools from their 2009 1st XV i think

Matraville High had 4 in the 77/78 UK Tour (Ellas & Warwick Melrose); Waverley had 3 in 1981/82 UK Tour (Burke brothers & Tim Kava); Joeys had 4 v Ireland in 2004 and Kings had 5 & Newington had 3 v Samoa & Fiji in 2010
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Just checked, in 2009 Brisbane State High had 9 players selected for Aus Schools I.

These players were: Curtis Browning, Paul Alo-Emile, Jordan Taupou, Rohan Saifolai, Joe O'Regan, Matt Ika, Chris F'Sautia, Matt Garland, Tyson Frizell.

No idea what happened to half of them. Taupou is a leagiue, Browning is floating around the Brisbane Club rugby scene, F'Sautia is with the Reds.
 

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Billy Sheehan (19)
Just checked, in 2009 Brisbane State High had 9 players selected for Aus Schools I.

These players were: Curtis Browning, Paul Alo-Emile, Jordan Taupou, Rohan Saifolai, Joe O'Regan, Matt Ika, Chris F'Sautia, Matt Garland, Tyson Frizell.

No idea what happened to half of them. Taupou is a leagiue, Browning is floating around the Brisbane Club rugby scene, F'Sautia is with the Reds.
Tyson Frizell was from Woolongong and attended Illawarra Sports high, and currently plays for the Cronulla Sharks in the NRL.
 

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Trevor Allan (34)
Curtis Browning: Aus u20 squad member
PAE: Melbourne Rebels squad member
Jordan Taupou: Aus 7s
Rohan Saifoloi: Aus u20s last year plays for Southern Districts
CFS: Reds and Aus u20s
Tyson Frizell: St George Illawarra Dragons and Wales

Not sure about the other three
 
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iluvfooty

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Just checked, in 2009 Brisbane State High had 9 players selected for Aus Schools I.

These players were: Curtis Browning, Paul Alo-Emile, Jordan Taupou, Rohan Saifolai, Joe O'Regan, Matt Ika, Chris F'Sautia, Matt Garland, Tyson Frizell.

No idea what happened to half of them. Taupou is a leagiue, Browning is floating around the Brisbane Club rugby scene, F'Sautia is with the Reds.

frizell made his nrl debut for sharks this year and garland was floating around with the titans 20's but no idea what happened to him. also paul alo emile signed with the rebels
 
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Casey95

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1. Pleash
2. Manu
3. Sikemeti
4. Rorke
5. Staniforth
6. Dempsey
7. Wilkin
8. Whitely
9. Quigley/ little tuttle
10. Pia'asu (or whatever it is)
11. Iaone
12. Tuttle
13. Stewart
14. Kellaway/Tanuvasa
15. Greene/Kellaway
 
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Casey95

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Robertson or Pleash would need to play TH, QLD has no better prop than Pleash (IGS)
 

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Darby Loudon (17)
I just finished watching the Aus v Arg match at the junior world champs: bloody hell we (senior and junior teams) are not mudlarks, are we.

I know this is not on the topic, but i am hoping someone can fill in some details about Curtis Browning. I know Curtis made the Aust Schoolboys from Qld last year.

My question is: does anyone know his background. I knew of a Curtis Browning a few years ago from Western Sydney, who was a talented field athletic (javelin, shot putt & discus) and a very good rugby league footballer. I'm sure his family moved to Brisbane about 5-6 years ago. Is this the same young fellow?
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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Curtis played for Qld Schools in 2009, 2010 and 2011. He played for Oz Schools each year (the As in 2009 when he was 15).

His uncle is Dick Marks an ex-Wallaby who played for Queensland.

I think Curtis is Queensland born and bred.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
QLD 1:
1. Aaron Pleash
2. Andrew Manu
3. Dylan Sikimenti
4. Adam Korczyk
5. Jack Cornelsen
6. Michael Gunn
7. Stuart Bougoure
8. Lolo Fakaosilea
9. Vincent Quigley
10. James Dalgleish
11. Monty Ioane
12. Jack Tuttle - Aus 'A' 2011
13. Rory Humphreys
14. Gareth Kallel
15. Jonah Placid


NSW 1:
1. Oscar Pryor-Lees
2. Tom Wilson
3. Rory O'Connor
4. Harry Rorke - Aus 'A' 2011
5. Oflu Manukeu
6. Jack Dempsey
7. Jack Johnson
8. Mitchell Whiteley - Aus 'A' 2011
9. Fabian Natoli
10. David Horwitz - Aus Schools 2011
11. Tanne Milne
12. Tepai Meoroa
13. Jim Stewart - Aus Schools 2011
14. Andrew Kellaway
15. Jake McIntyre - Aus Schools 2011

NSW looks slightly stronger...
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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Looks stronger, smells stronger, feels stronger but I've seen this so many times only to be proved wrong.

A majority of the NSW lads are from our GPS and their competition hasn't started yet, but they've played in quite a few trial games including 2 rep trials; so it shouldn't affect them too much.

I was looking at my team of the tournament from the national U/16 competition last year and there were 9 of the 15 from north of the Tweed River; so the if we are looking at things on paper we have to look at them.

From the U/16 Queenslanders that I picked I notice that the 9 are all in the 2012 Queensalnd Ones XV except flanker Wilkin, flyhalf Paai'aua and LHP Sala. Sala was a smokey, but are the other two injured - or involved with league comps?


Gun 12 Stewart from NSW has been out for a while and has been picked at 13 and another centre, Milne, has been put on the wing.

The NSW Ones team should be quite strong but I don't like the front row - or rather the props. I haven't seen the Qld 5 or 8 play before but I've got the feeling that the Qld forwards should have the edge.

Watch out for 6. Dempsey from NSW as I think that he and Tuttle of Queensland will be two of the stars of the tournament.


PS - As well as playing for Oz A Schools v England last year, Rorke was selected for the Oz Schools Ones bench v NZ but was injured and could not play.
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churr

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QLD in the same boat, season starts term 3 but similar to NSW trial games and rep trials have kept them involved with footy and it shouldnt effect them at all
 

zacf01

Stan Wickham (3)
Wilkin is injured, Paai'aau is recovering from an ACL reconstruction but i believe is Bronco contracted so may not have taken part anyway
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Watch out for 6. Dempsey from NSW as I think that he and Tuttle of Queensland will be two of the stars of the tournament..

QLD 6. Gunn isn't too bad either. Is McIntyre a natural 15 or a 10 converted? Also where is Gutherson? Would have to say QLD looks stronger in that position with Placid run-on and Greene on the bench. The battle for wing spots should be interesting too, from reading the NSW threads Kellaway seems to be the gun winger down south while Ioane is a fairly solid player too.

Agree with you regarding the QLD forward pack, none really set the world on fire but the tight 5 have played with each other numerous times and has a very strong GPS influence. Rorke should get the gig as one lock, my other tip would be 4. Korczyk but you never know what other states might offer. 13. Humphreys is a unknown quality right now, real smokey IMO. Has made both QLD 1 League and Union this year and could give Stewart a run for his money if Jim isn't fit or in form. 8. Fakaosilea is much like Tasi from last year in that he is just a brutal ball runner and likes the contact, also known for having a short temper which could make things interesting.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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Well, if Gunn is better than Dempsey then Oz Schools is going to have a fine 6 this year indeed.

I saw Gunn play for the Qld Twos in the 2011 U/16 tournament and he did not take my eye, though that doesn't mean a lot, and one year can make a huge amount of difference anyway.

As for the wingers: I believe that Gutherson, who you asked about, is already contracted by the Manly Sea Eagles. Kellaway, who you mentioned played fullback in the NSW trials but the NSW selectors wanted to get both McIntyre and the good all-round flyhalf Horwitz into the XV - so they picked McIntyre at 15.

It's not the worst idea, even though there are probably 3 other NSW trialists who are better fullbacks, maybe 4. Sometimes selectors choose players to play at a higher level because they are big match players and McIntyre is that.

That doesn't explain why 13. Milne is on the wing rather than partnering Newington team mate 12. Moeroa in the NSW Ones or Twos. If they wanted to play a centre on the wing they should have chosen the multi-talented Foketi, who is faster than Milne anyway. Instead, he is playing in the Twos

In other words: there is a lack of specialisation in the NSW Ones back line and a whiff of compromise.

As for the Qld 8: NSW has one of his type in the Twos, but Whiteley in the Ones is a different player altogether: a skills 8, who I have seen play at 12 with aplomb. This is probably OK because NSW Ones has two locks who run over folks and 6.Dempsey runs through them with leg drive.

But here we go again, or at least I do: writing about the Ones players of both big rugby states yet knowing that there are Twos players who should have been in the Ones from both states who will be the apple of a few selectors' eyes. And not even knowing (as I write this), who is in the Combined States, ACT, Vic and WA teams - and even if we did, not knowing the merit of a lot of them.

But it keeps us off the streets which must be of benefit to the general populace.
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