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Bledisloe II @ Eden Park

Discussion in 'Rugby Matches' started by Dctarget, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Karl Tu'inukuafe is recovering from meningitis. I have no idea when he's expected back but he certainly isn't available right now. The All Blacks have a big issue at prop in my opinion. I don't think Moody and Franks are world class still and Franks is certainly struggling for form. The All Blacks basically created the standard of ball playing props but now they seem to be lacking options that are strong at set piece and add value around the park on both sides of the ball.

    They're struggling in the backrow. They don't have a true 6 who is consistently good enough and are instead trying to pigeon hole their best three backrowers into the side. I think there is reasonable balance between Cane, Savea and Read as Savea is probably the best ball carrier they have and can easily do the job of a big number 8. I'm not sure it will actually improve if they drop one of those three to the bench and play someone else at 6 and move Read back to 8.

    They are missing Brodie Retallick massively. Sam Whitelock is still very good but you probably wouldn't say he's in the best couple of locks in the world now.
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  2. KOB1987 Mark Ella (57)

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    ^^^^ it's the pairing of Whitelock and Retallick that is world class, Retallick can do the job with another top lock but Whitelock struggles without him.
  3. Tex Ken Catchpole (46)

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    SMH is reporting a repeat of 2015 and a number of changes, no word on who. Pocock to be picked only when he's capable of a full 80 minutes.
  4. waiopehu oldboy Tim Horan (67)

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    AB's biggest problem selection-wise is they've not called anyone in even as cover for Goodhue & Barrett so the answers have to come from within a squad that's starting to look a little shallow in some areas. Plus of course if they call someone in & so much as put him in the 23 it invites the obvious question "why was he not there to begin with?" which is clearly not a question Shag & Co. want to have to answer/ deflect.
  5. Blue Andrew Slack (58)

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    Nowhere in any parallel universe would that make any sense. Whatsoever.
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  6. Derpus Andrew Slack (58)

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    Is Naholo in the squad/available? Hed surely be better than Rieko atm.
  7. Silverado Trevor Allan (34)

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    Absolutely. I'm amazed at how many non rugby friends have been talking about the first game and claiming that they will be watching the second. It's been a long time since I've seen this kind of hype about our game. Apart from that we only have one other game before the WC so building combinations would seem to be a higher priority than tinkering at this point.
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  8. fatprop David Wilson (68)

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    I think the plan, prior to the win, would have been that Genia, Foley, TK, Kepu & Pocock to either start or be on the bench for Eden Park

    I don't know whether that will change or not
  9. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    Think they would have been looking at resting one of the locks and getting some game time into Coleman as well
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  10. VassMan Ward Prentice (10)

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    Putting out our best team and winning the Bledisloe will do a lot better for our World Cup chances then testing out different combinations
  11. BDA Peter Johnson (47)

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    I guess if your main priority is to win the world cup then the rotation policy seems to have some merit, particularly given that we went all the way to the WC Final in 2015 using that approach. Plus I'm mindful that, strangely, statistically we're actually much more likely to win the world cup than win at Eden Park. With that said, I agree with everyone here that I'd prefer to see us put our best foot forward on Saturday. To me it depends what the changes are. I think the same spine needs to remain. If Cheika decides to rotate a few guys off the bench, maybe starting Genia and Coleman or something. maybe giving Bank a start in place of Hodge or bring AAC onto the bench. I won't be too upset. If we see sweeping changes I'll be bloody disappointed.
  12. VassMan Ward Prentice (10)

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    What possible advantage is there to bringing in AAC?
  13. dru Andrew Slack (58)

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    Stuff the RWC. We have it all to play for in the Bled. Sort that out, and only then put the thinking back to Japan.
  14. Joe Blow Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    Sadly Cheika is arrogant enough to think that we can win going ahead with the planned rotation.
    Time to really have a go at sticking it to the ABs at home. Even if we don’t win push them hard so they have something to think about between now and the RWC.
  15. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    Cheiks has two other selectors to sort him out now. If they do it, it's on them too
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  16. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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  17. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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  18. Tomikin Mark Loane (55)

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    Raising the average age by about 10 years ?
  19. Tomikin Mark Loane (55)

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    Pensioner discount for dinners and bus trips ?
  20. fatprop David Wilson (68)

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    Nah it will be just Cheik's fault
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