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Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Multicam = more equipment and people because you need a switching board of some kind.

I think if you could get a SINGLE camera up high on the halfway line, you could get a decent stream for not much. But you need a decent outbound internet speed and a fairly decent connection at your host server to broadcast it on. And if you're adding commentary then you are putting another factor in, though a decent HD handheld should be able to have a line-in.

You're better off recording it with one decent camera, uploading to YouTube after a quick edit, and letting them deal with the traffic.
 
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TOCC

Guest
QRU are also broadcasting today's Premier Rugby match of the round live on YouTube via the RedsTv channel
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
I cannot find the IRB Sevens listed anywhere, certainly not on any of the main Fox Sports channels. Anybody have any information?
 
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TOCC

Guest
the final day is been broadcast on Monday around midday, it won't be live.. If it we're live the final game would be 2am on Monday morning
 

p.Tah

John Thornett (49)
If Foxtel won't show it live, then the IRB should allow Australians to stream the games from their website.

Foxtel is just encouraging people to look for illegal avenues to watch the games. If we find a decent one, it probably work for other games (e.g SuperRugby) as well and they start losing subscriptions.

EDIT: you can watch it live on the IRB website!

http://www.irbsevens.com/liveblog/blogid=1880.html
 

Sir Arthur Higgins

Alan Cameron (40)
I really struggle to see how the 18th team is going to be from Asia. Makes no sense.
I am betting it goes to either a second Argentinian team or another team in Africa. Like Kenya - but playing out of South Africa initially.
Logistically Asia and Argentina in the same conference would be a nightmare and almost soul destroying for the players travelling that much.
I would say two arg teams makes the most sense. Eventually you add another African team in that conference and in Aus/nz you add a Japanese
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Foxtel is just encouraging people to look for illegal avenues to watch the games. If we find a decent one, it probably work for other games (e.g SuperRugby) as well and they start losing subscriptions.


Well, yeah. I already tried to tell them that in my yearly email titled "Gimme HD Sports for $50 a month" but they never seem to listen.

I refer you to the South Park clip someone posted earlier.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Just for those who still think BBL is only popular because there is nothing else on - you may be right, I may be crazy, but it just might be a lunatic you're looking for, to whit:

http://foxsports.com.au/cricket/fig...ith-other-sports/story-e6frf3g3-1226912398589

Figures show Sydney’s Big Bash teams winning the TV ratings battle with other sports

Malcolm Conn
The Daily Telegraph
May 10, 2014 12:00AM

SYDNEY’S Big Bash franchises are selling themselves as the most popular sporting teams in town and have the numbers to prove it.

Despite being considered peripheral to the football codes the Big Bash’s first year of free to air television on Channel Ten saw the Sixers and Thunder outstrip every other domestic team in Australia’s biggest city.

The Sixers had an average audience of 967,774 and the Thunder 886,133 followed by the Rabbitohs (783,597) and Swans (766,077).

The most remarkable comparison is between new Western Sydney teams the Thunder and the Wanderers.

While they have similar average crowds of about 14,500 the Thunder have more than seven times the viewing audience.

Yet the hype and passion surrounding the Wanderers after successive A League Grand Finals is a far cry from the Thunder, who have undergone a major revamp after winning just two matches in three seasons.

Average Big Bash audiences of more than 930,000 across the eight teams have allowed some sides to double and even triple the value of their major sponsorship to more than $500,000 a season.

Independent valuations by the Sixers and the Thunder found their overall exposure is now worth $4 million in sponsorship dollars.

Sixers chief executive Dom Remond admits sponsors are incredulous when told of the Big Bash’s audience domination.

“We have the biggest average audience across any team in Sydney, which is fantastic,” Remond told The Daily Telegraph.

“The numbers we did on free to air last year were very significant.

“We need to get out into the market and not be shy with the achievements that we’ve made.

“One of the challenges we have is to get out there and tell everyone that cricket really is Australia’s favourite sport from Test level down to the Big Bash.

“They (sponsors) find it hard to believe until you show them the facts and data. The rationale makes sense where you’re telling them that all our games are pretty much prime time on free to air tv.”

The Thunder are looking for a new major sponsor at a significantly increased amount.

“That’s the story we’re telling, we’re getting an average audience of around 900,000 with national reach in a peak viewing time,” Thunder chief executive Nick Cummins said.

“Anyone who experienced Big Bash last summer it became compulsory viewing. As you get home each night you turn the TV on so we got some really good traction.”

The Sixers have just resigned their major sponsor iiNet for another three years on a much later figure.

“They see the phenomenal numbers on free to air. What’s big for them is that being a Perth-based company they were gaining brand awareness in the Sydney market and their data shows a significant increase in brand awareness which is important to them,” Remond said

“More importantly they saw an increase in plan sales and subscription sales to their internet service.

“They have upped their spend in line with increased ratings.”

“We were selling into a market where we thought average ratings would be about 500,000 per game but over average ratings for the Sixers were almost double.”

Sydney teams average TV audiences

Team Total

Sixers 967,774

Thunder 886,133

Rabbitohs 783,597

Swans 766,077

Roosters 692,695

GWS Giants 315,600

Sydney FC 127,906

Wanderers 125,103

Waratahs 108,854
 
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Train Without a Station

Guest
Fuck that's dismal for the Tahs. With 30 percent market penetration for Pay TV it would be reasonable if other teams were getting the same as GWS are but they're even half of their next rival.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
And this isn't counting attendance at ground. Which at the SCG is pretty good, though what makes it even more impressive for the Thunder is that they were losing hard
 
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Redsfan

Guest
In other news, the Honey Badger is chief executive of the Thunder!
 

Badger

Bill McLean (32)
When you see the viewing number for the Tahs, it's hard to take the sponsor media exposure values bandied about by Tahs HQ seriously.
The stats from last year.

Business-graphic-1-web.jpg


Does it count if no one is watching?

How do they calculate the membership satisfaction rating?

And this isn't counting attendance at ground. Which at the SCG is pretty good, though what makes it even more impressive for the Thunder is that they were losing hard

The Thunder are based at the Olympic Stadium while the Sixers call the SCG home. Either way, the numbers are very impressive.
 

mst

Peter Johnson (47)
Its interesting reading all of the information and views in this thread. Add in and link what in the other threads like he "TV ratings" and the "how to promote the game" it becomes a thought proving and compelling discussion.

But I want to ask a question that directly relates to this thread, but also covers the others about the games played over the weekend, especially the Brumbies V Sharks.

Now simply. put yourself in the shoes of say Pulver, who is about to entertain Mr Network 10 and Mr Foxtel and talk TV deal. So you sit down, and Mr Network 10 shoots this across the table at you;

Bill, why do you think the products, Wallaby games and especially the Super-Rugby in Australia are worth anything? Just, I watched a game the other week, tough game crap conditions, not too attractive. It was 1v2 in Super Rugby. So, like you we do our marketing research and we do listen to what the die hard supporters say about the product. Apparently they openly, publicly, and in large numbers said they though it was crap, so essentially we at the network believe that its a pretty poor product. We haven't see this before; AFL supporters will watch a slug-fest in mud that you can tell what's going on, the BBL; if its over in half an hour the supporters don't care. You supporters essentially devalue what could be the final, and the money spinner? So why should we pay for such rubbish your own supporter bag?
 

p.Tah

John Thornett (49)
Apparently they openly, publicly, and in large numbers said they though it was crap, so essentially we at the network believe that its a pretty poor product. We haven't see this before; AFL supporters will watch a slug-fest in mud that you can tell what's going on, the BBL; if its over in half an hour the supporters don't care. You supporters essentially devalue what could be the final, and the money spinner? So why should we pay for such rubbish your own supporter bag?[/I]
I think you'd be surprised if you headed over to a NRL or AFL forum they certainly do slag off their games, much more than we do. Even in main stream media some key commentators and journos do the same. It shouldn't effect the negotiations Specifically IMO, however it does reinforce the negativity about our game which doesn't attract new supporters.
 
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