Federal Coalition Government 2013-?

[Runner]

Abbott cant negotiate anything.
His abject failure in gaining power last time around is proof of that.
Team Austraya?
That's for middle aged middle income or better,with kids who have just finished Uni.
It is a slogan,it is not inclusive of all Australians.

Like It time was a slogan eh!

 

[boyo]

Always looking back(wards).

 

[redstragic]

A very good interview with Mark Latham.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/conversations/mark-latham/5650272

"..politicians the dog dirt on the shoe of democracy"

I must say I support his ideas on reform of the system (and would go much further) but starting with the abolition of Question Time.

His conga line of suckholes line was a near perfect payout.

 

[redstragic]

I sat in a hospital for 4 hours recently and got great service as they could provide. Why pay? One person was there for a Panadol, a women had a kid who had fallen over and needed a bandaid. A girl came in with a sore foot from dancing the night before and after a while with a bit of a cream ( decorub from smell) left. Yet the staff had to waste time.

It will deter the nuts

And I have sat in the hospital emergency room on plenty of nights with a chronically ill child. The mass of human tragedy always assembled wasn't cured with dencorub. I cannot be thankful enough for how accessible our medical system is.

 

[redstragic]

Like It time was a slogan eh!

We’ll get the budget back under control by ending Labor’s waste.

We’ll stop the boats.

And we’ll build the roads of the 21st century.

I wonder who repeated this ad nauseum?

 

[Ruggo]

And I have sat in the hospital emergency room on plenty of nights with a chronically ill child. The mass of human tragedy always assembled wasn't cured with dencorub. I cannot be thankful enough for how accessible our medical system is.

Not till you really need it you truly appreciate it. My old man had a five year battle with cancer and we spent many nights in A&E and I agree with you in full.

 

[Scoey]

Couldn't agree more. I have reasonably high level hospital private health insurance but a couple of years ago after a pretty routine trip to the doc I got sent for a fairly innocuous procedure to confirm that nothing was really wrong. Next thing I know I'm I'm the RBH and having major surgery. Thankfully I made the trip to the doc at exactly the right time. Had I waited a couple of months for my symptoms to worsen I could be in a world of trouble now, or worse.

I can say this with complete honesty. I went to the doc because my wife suggested I should and in a moment of weakness I couldn't think of a reason not to.
Almost any excuse not to go would've been enough for me to give it a miss, as I thought I was fine. A $14 fee (doc + pathology) would've been enough to stop me going.

The public health system in this country is incredible and I owe it a huge debt. Yes they waste their time occasionally on people in A&E but the vast proportion of what they do is in the theatres, wards and specialist outpatient rooms etc.


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[Bench]

Hi all, first time poster in the politics section.

Little piece about me; like many Australians I voted for the Libs last year merely to oust the ALP due to the shambles they'd entangled themselves in. As a young university student bereft of work opportunities, naturally I've been repulsed by Abbott's ridiculous 'mandate' and sorely regretted voting the way I had. Thank fuck I've got my health!

I'm curious to know the general consensus in here (if such a thing exists in this place) regarding opinions toward the next election. Now that the Abbott government have emerged from behind their facade, are people ready to trust the opposition again? Will a third party like the Greens or PUP receive a significant swing?

And Runner I'd hope that you'd enlighten me with a little bit more depth than 'Clive is Clive' and the Greens are 'barking mad' and 'nuts'.

 

[Scoey]

What I know about politics could probably be written on a postcard but I, like you, am very curious about the next election.
With a half decent opposition, the Libs would be gone at the first possible chance. But as much as the apparent majority seem to be pissed at the current mob I doubt a whole heap of them will be willing to vote ALP just yet unless they start convincing folk that they now have their own house in order.
I reckon I'd agree that some of the lesser parties will see some more votes come their way and we may well be in for quite a few years of minority government until the big parties learn that they actually have to serve the people again.


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[boyo]

I reckon I'd agree that some of the lesser parties will see some more votes come their way and we may well be in for quite a few years of minority government until the big parties learn that they actually have to serve the people again.


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I wouldn't be surprised at that.

 

[boyo]

 

[boyo]

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[Ruggo]

Hi all, first time poster in the politics section.

Little piece about me; like many Australians I voted for the Libs last year merely to oust the ALP due to the shambles they'd entangled themselves in. As a young university student bereft of work opportunities, naturally I've been repulsed by Abbott's ridiculous 'mandate' and sorely regretted voting the way I had. Thank fuck I've got my health!

I'm curious to know the general consensus in here (if such a thing exists in this place) regarding opinions toward the next election. Now that the Abbott government have emerged from behind their facade, are people ready to trust the opposition again? Will a third party like the Greens or PUP receive a significant swing?

And Runner I'd hope that you'd enlighten me with a little bit more depth than 'Clive is Clive' and the Greens are 'barking mad' and 'nuts'.

I think people are ready for honesty and leadership. Somebody who knows what is the right direction for the country and will sell their message to the Australian people with truth and integrity, regardless of how palatable it may be in the electorate. Weather it be a Keating who will give a frank historical assessment through a Redfern Park speech, enshrine the High Court Mabo decision in legislation through the Native Title Act despite the anxiety in the electorate. Maybe a John Howard who despite his previous comments took a highly controversial GST to the people through an election. To steal a Keating term but somebody with a true "moral compass".

I understand where you are coming from as a uni student. I am studying environmental science and it is like watching my career opportunities evaporate in front of me. I work as a cleaner to pay my way and what keeps me going is the light at the end of the tunnel being a hard earned career but it feels like that light is fading. I have also been battling depression for some years now and that fight is getting harder and harder.

From my perspective I truly hate this government and I assure you hate is not a word I use lightly.

 

[redstragic]

"And the job of the government is not to target any particular community but to target extremism, to try to monitor people who have been engaged in terrorist activity overseas. This is my constant message, and I have to say I've been heartened in recent days by the response that I've had from leaders of Australia's Islamic community.

"One of them, indeed, at the end of last week's consultations said quite exuberantly 'We are all part of Team Australia and you are our captain'."



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ony-abbott-20140826-108ibw.html#ixzz3BUtohnTS


I have a feeling Captain Straya does not get sarcasm.

 

[JSRF10]

As someone who comes from somewhere were politics is a battle drawn on religious lines I've quite enjoyed getting into the politics here.

In line with what seems to be happening in Europe the traditional parties are struggling to win votes and micro parties are starting to gain more of a foothold. It will be interesting to see what happens going forward but I suspect that both Liberal and Labour will lose seats to smaller parties. The days of shadowy think tanks driving policy are slowly dying due to social media. The twitter generation won't forget all the memes the esteemed leaders have provided recently.

As for the Team Australia nonsense its nauseating and straight out of the George W playbook for nothing is working lets get patriotism on the news. Slippery slope which I hope Australia doesn't go down.

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[Scoey]

I have never voted Liberal and I doubt I ever will but I'm in a very similar boat to Ruggo. Between Abbott and Newman I am getting fucked over in more ways than a guy really should.
I work full time, I'm studying Engineering part time to try and better my situation career wise. I have a young family and am the sole bread winner. My Uni fees are likely to go up but at the same time career options are drying up. Costs of raising a family and running a home are increasing but tax and benefits for family's are eating into our household budget at the other end.
In QLD Newman is forcing my employer to make me work longer hours for less pay, reducing my sick leave, cutting my pay (5-10% is speculated) and I will likely lose my RDO's which is one of the things that is keeping me from going over the edge. That extra day at home with my wife and daughter is priceless.

I generally don't use the word 'hate' either but I'm running out of other verbs.


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[Pfitzy]

I make it a point at every election to go through the following process on our ridiculous preferential voting form (the ones where the guy who wins doesn't even have consensus from their electorate):

1) Check how many numbers I need to write, then working backwards

2) Find the parties I lump into "Religious whack jobs" and put them dead last, followed by the "Huntin'-n-Fishin'" (its ironic that "Guns and Rods" exist at the other end of the social spectrum from "Rodd & Gunn").

3) Look at the poster of the ALP and LNP candidate I've got, and rank them according purely to my impressions of their stock photo

4) Perform the same process with the Independents

5) Stick any of the little parties at the top - these are usually what I call "Sex, Drugs and Rock n Roll" or by their official names: Sex Party, Legalise Marijuana Party, and PartyParty Party!

It was funny last time - we had that James Diaz dickhead who didn't even have a grasp on 3 of the Mad Monk's 12 point plan or whatever it was.

I don't know much about Bill Shorten, but he at least seems to get that we're sick of being fucked around by idiots. I'd like to see what he does after he gets in, mostly to piss Tony and Joe off, but also to see if the ALP have actually realised what a colossal pack of fucking numpties they were, to the point of fixing it.

 

[Runner]

Hi all, first time poster in the politics section.

Little piece about me; like many Australians I voted for the Libs last year merely to oust the ALP due to the shambles they'd entangled themselves in. As a young university student bereft of work opportunities, naturally I've been repulsed by Abbott's ridiculous 'mandate' and sorely regretted voting the way I had. Thank fuck I've got my health!

I'm curious to know the general consensus in here (if such a thing exists in this place) regarding opinions toward the next election. Now that the Abbott government have emerged from behind their facade, are people ready to trust the opposition again? Will a third party like the Greens or PUP receive a significant swing?

And Runner I'd hope that you'd enlighten me with a little bit more depth than 'Clive is Clive' and the Greens are 'barking mad' and 'nuts'.

Perhaps that is the simple truth no need fpor great elaboration.

That said I'll try

 

[fatprop]

I sat in a hospital for 4 hours recently and got great service as they could provide. Why pay? One person was there for a Panadol, a women had a kid who had fallen over and needed a bandaid. A girl came in with a sore foot from dancing the night before and after a while with a bit of a cream ( decorub from smell) left. Yet the staff had to waste time.

It will deter the nuts

EVERYONE is missing the point on the GP co-payment.
An unfair assault on the sick and the poor?
Hardly.
A device to deter overuse of GP services and expensive, taxpayer-funded, medical testing?
Well, yes.
Economics teaches that we will always over consume things that are free.........................

Exclusions can be made for vulnerable groups. The New Zealand government recently excluded kids from their co-contribution.

Remember that the government already proposes a cap of 10 paid trips a year for children and concession card holders — so they’re up for a maximum of $70 a year.
For many others, a $7 contribution is a small price to pay.

If GP surgeries are flooded by sick people unable to afford care, we’ll soon hear about it.

In the meantime, if the small price signal deters some unnecessary use of public resources, all the better.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...eeing-the-doctor/story-e6frflo9-1227037823594

So NZ uses the same approach, I haven't heard of mass deaths across the ditch

 

[Scoey]

So NZ uses the same approach, I haven't heard of mass deaths across the ditch

Because mass deaths are always a good measure of good policy.
If the introduction of a government policy causes any number of 'acceptable deaths' then there's something very wrong with it.


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