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Force 2023

molman

Jim Lenehan (48)
These are both great signings. Naisarani was on the path to being a ironed on wallaby at one stage before his form took a bit of a dip and Tizzano at one point looked like he might be a future Hooper 2.0. He was developing well through the NRC, but I'm not sure the Waratah's was a good culture fit for him (as has been discussed elsewhere) and he landed there probably around their lowest point as a club. Hopefully both perform well.

@farva I guess after all our back and forward around the squad, caps and players the Rugby gods listened and you secured yourself an ex-Wallaby which your club helped develop :)
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Simon Poidevin (60)
These are both great signings. Naisarani was on the path to being a ironed on wallaby at one stage before his form took a bit of a dip and Tizzano at one point looked like he might be a future Hooper 2.0. He was developing well through the NRC, but I'm not sure the Waratah's was a good culture fit for him (as has been discussed elsewhere) and he landed there probably around their lowest point as a club. Hopefully both perform well.

@farva I guess after all our back and forward around the squad, caps and players the Rugby gods listened and you secured yourself an ex-Wallaby which your club helped develop :)
Why is this? Just curious.

He performed well at such a young age in a really poor team. He then got jumped by Hooper coming back and Gamble coming in. He played for West Harbour also which is a poor performing Club in Sydney but he always showed up. Glad he's back in Aus. Completely wasted playing 2nd tier Rugby in the UK.
 

WFDS

Herbert Moran (7)
Force coach unleashes on TMO for missing Swinton hit
Justin Chadwick
AAP
April 20, 2023 3:23PM


Western Force coach Simon Cron has expressed his disgust at how Lachie Swinton's brutal late hit on flyhalf Jake Strachan went unnoticed during Saturday's 36-16 loss to the NSW Waratahs.

Swinton flattened Strachan just 21 seconds into the match after the Force playmaker had completed a clearing kick.

The referee and TMO failed to pick up the incident during the match, despite Strachan going off a few minutes later for a concussion test.

Strachan passed the HIA and returned to the field, but was subbed out at half-time after his condition deteriorated.

The concussion is so bad that Strachan is set to miss a minimum of four weeks.

Swinton was later cited by SANZAAR and slapped with a 10-week ban, which was reduced to seven weeks given Swinton's acceptance of guilt and display of remorse.

If Swinton had received a red card when the incident occurred, it would have put the Force in the box seat to secure a vital victory.

Cron was left flabbergasted at how the incident went unnoticed at the time.

"We saw it live, everyone I've talked to saw it live ... and yet two guys in the (TMO) box with nine cameras missed it," Cron told reporters on Thursday.

"So you've got to ask the question - did they miss it, or did they choose to miss it?

"Because I don't understand how you could miss it."

Force chief executive Tony Lewis has written to Rugby Australia about the incident.

Strachan was allowed to re-enter the field in the first half after being cleared by an independent doctor.

Despite it not being a Force medical staff member who cleared him to return, Cron was feeling some guilt that Strachan was placed at further risk.

"I wish I picked up that he was not good. He was battling to make any calls - structure, system wise," Cron said.

"We had some young leaders out there and they said to me after the game, 'He wasn't talking to us'.

"If I had known that, I would have pulled him off immediately.

"I wish that I had picked up on that myself from the box. I'm disappointed in us we didn't see it.

"I felt bad for Strachy because that's risky, it scares me.

"But ultimately, I think that if it had been dealt with properly the first time (with the TMO addressing the hit), it would have been a lot clearer for everyone."

Swinton's seven-week suspension is the longest ban imposed on an Australian since Brumbies winger Chance Peni was hit with one of similar length five years ago.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/ru...hit-c-10405566
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
Two points:

- " Strachan passed the HIA and returned to the field, but was subbed out at half-time after his condition deteriorated. The concussion is so bad that Strachan is set to miss a minimum of four weeks." That's diabolical. Who cleared him? I hope RA act in him.
- "did they miss it, or did they choose to miss it?" that type of emotional statement might fly directly after the game, but a few days down the track its just ridiculous and Cron should be reprimanded.
 

Wilson

Phil Kearns (64)
Two points:

- " Strachan passed the HIA and returned to the field, but was subbed out at half-time after his condition deteriorated. The concussion is so bad that Strachan is set to miss a minimum of four weeks." That's diabolical. Who cleared him? I hope Rugby Australia act in him.
- "did they miss it, or did they choose to miss it?" that type of emotional statement might fly directly after the game, but a few days down the track its just ridiculous and Cron should be reprimanded.
Cleared by the independent match doctor apparently. Pick and drive did an interview podcast with Cron and he sounded pretty filthy with himself for not realising Strachan was struggling after he went back on. Sure seems like a pretty egregious failure of the systems on both ends though.
 

Mr Pilfer

Dave Cowper (27)
Two points:

- " Strachan passed the HIA and returned to the field, but was subbed out at half-time after his condition deteriorated. The concussion is so bad that Strachan is set to miss a minimum of four weeks." That's diabolical. Who cleared him? I hope Rugby Australia act in him.
- "did they miss it, or did they choose to miss it?" that type of emotional statement might fly directly after the game, but a few days down the track its just ridiculous and Cron should be reprimanded.
I agree Cron could have chosen better words but you need to remember this is not an isolated incident and probably the final straw for him. We have had 2 players given red cards in game which were then subsequently ruled to only be yellow card offenses.
When you are a team that is already battling these things make a big difference
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
I agree Cron could have chosen better words but you need to remember this is not an isolated incident and probably the final straw for him. We have had 2 players given red cards in game which were then subsequently ruled to only be yellow card offenses.
When you are a team that is already battling these things make a big difference

yep and I have acknowledged that elsewhere. But to suggest the match officials are corrupt is just terrible.
 

Wallaby Man

Nev Cottrell (35)
I love that Cron is swinging from the hip. Build the tension up so that when the Tahs are in town fans are calling for blood.
 

Kevin77

Fred Wood (13)
Out of interest and in light of yesterday's announcements, what do you think is the Force's best 23 assuming everyone fit (Rodda, Faiinga etc)?
 

Tazzmania

Bob Loudon (25)
Robertson T
Fiangaa
Medrano
Rodda
Williams
Wells / Anstee / RWV
Naisarani
Tizzano
Fines
Mataele
Pasitoa
Stewart
Spinks
Pulu
Tiatia

Wagner
Horton
Amoane
Kalapu
Wells / Anstee / RWV
Robertson H
Hegarty
Kuenzele
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
I'd say it's between Wells and RWV. I don't think Anstee has the size to compete at this level, he looked promising in 2021 but hasn't really kicked on.
 
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