No gents I support their position but sometimes to get ahead you needd to compromise.
If you support their position then ask for equality not just a half arsed compromise.
It will just take even longer to reach the goal.
No gents I support their position but sometimes to get ahead you needd to compromise.
What is there even to compromise on? What are people who are against gay marriage actually giving up in this compromise?Now your just offensive.
No gents I support their position but sometimes to get ahead you needd to compromise.
What is there even to compromise on? What are people who are against gay marriage actually giving up in this compromise?
They don't own marriage and therefore are due no compensation.
Simple.
Change takes time.
Many conservatives believe the word marriage is theirs and has special significance to them due to centuries of history.
The reality is that it will come but in the mean time accept a bit of compromise. perhaps the others won't move but if both sides diig in it will take longer.
As others have said, there is no reason for there to be a compromise on this issue because there is nothing to compromise. No one is losing out by allowing others to have the same rights as them.
It is a question of asking for the same rights as everyone else. Asking for less rights is not a compromise, it is just discrimination.
I seriously doubt that if you allow gay people to have civil unions instead of a marriage it will result in same sex marriage being legalised sooner.
If you don't compromise the time frame may well take a lot longer. By all means have equal rights in content under the law .e.g inheritance super, etc. By having talked to a number of religiously conservative folk they view the word as theirs.
On the highlighted point I agree 100% but we are in a real world.
Agreeing to accept less than everyone else is not a compromise.
That's like saying that the pathway for women to receive equal pay to men is to agree to accept 80% of the pay men receive as a compromise.
I'm sure that's really going to help people reach equality.
You're suggesting that the way to achieve equality is to agree to inequality along the way. That is not a compromise.
Compromise involves both sides giving up something. Giving up your right to discriminate isn't exactly a compromise.
Your not dicussing this with me who agrees. As I say the reality is that it will take time. And getting everything but the word at the moment would be a wonderful step forward.
Why should it take time? It's already happening on New Zealand, Austria, over a third of the US states, Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, France, Netherlands, Mexico, Iceland, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, UK and Uruguay. Some of those countries are arguably more fundamentally Christian than ours.
We already have civil unions what other intermediate step is there?
All of them.How many call it marriage?
I'm just curious, what is your position now Runner? Should a compromise still be sought?
It's an interesting point that Runner makes. If homosexual couples could get equal legal rights by calling it a civil union or whatever, just not a marriage, wouldn't that be a good outcome? Particularly if the sticking point was a matter of semantics?
Would it seriously be worth pushing for the word marriage and risk not getting anything?
I don't know enough about the issue to know if this is what is happening but it just got me thinking.
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You both missed/ignored the point. At the end of they day gay people should have the same legal rights as hetero people. So if what is stopping that from happening is purely what it's called then digging your heels is over a matter of semantics is also pretty fucken dumb.
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You both missed/ignored the point. At the end of they day gay people should have the same legal rights as hetero people. So if what is stopping that from happening is purely what it's called then digging your heels is over a matter of semantics is also pretty fucken dumb.
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