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ODI World Cup 2019

Discussion in 'Cricket' started by Up the Guts, Mar 11, 2019.

  1. Hound Fred Wood (13)

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    Could have been on Wickets lost per innings - Probably more relevant than most boundries.
  2. Up the Guts Peter Sullivan (51)

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    I’m not sure I would support the use of any countback method at all really. There are many different ways to play cricket successfully, the fact you have a tie in the first place proves that. My preference would always be a super over tie break and following that the head to head result.
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  3. Derpus Mark Ella (57)

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    The obvious answer is to just give it to the Kiwi's before the super over on the basis that they lost the least wickets. Of course, the counter is that England would have batted differently if that was the case, which is probably true.

    I don't really see why it couldn't end in a draw and they share the world cup. They seem to be equals and both deserved it. Would have been the most sporting outcome.
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  4. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    I guess they are coming back to having a blanket rule that applies to all situations and they have decided that the winner of the match is determined from within the match.

    Any countback method is almost by definition arbitrary and deciding the outcome of a match by one will invariably suck.
  5. Brumby Runner Rod McCall (65)

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    BH, I really think the ICC or whoever will look at the situation you have outlined where a countback system will probably always result in one team having to score more runs than the other to win, while the other just needs to equal the first. It is intrinsically unfair imo.
  6. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    I guess their only alternative is an unlimited number of super overs. They may decide that is the way forward for knockout games at World Cups but I doubt they will change the countback method for regularly occurring super overs in T20 games.
  7. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    I think in a tournament as big as a World Cup you can't be having an arbitrary count back system. In the days of games played under lights or in a country like the UK where the days are quite long, you can afford to keep playing the super overs until there is a result. If both the primary reserve days of a semi or final are washed out then who finished higher on the table would be reasonable I think. Then again, in a final, surely you'd find a day that would be suitable.
  8. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    I am pretty sure I read that if the final is washed out completely they have joint winners.

    I agree with you that in a knockout game they may as well have unlimited super overs until there is a winner (highly unlikely to require more than 2).

    I am fine with regular T20 games going to countback on most boundaries. Who cares really?
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  9. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Yeah absolutely in T20 games. They're barely even cricket, so do what you like.
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  10. waiopehu oldboy Tim Horan (67)

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    Oh well, at least it'll never happen again:

    "Following on from a recommendation from the ICC Cricket Committee, the chief executives' committee agreed that use of the Super Over as a way to decide results at ICC events will be retained," the ICC said.

    "Both. agreed it was an exciting and engaging conclusion to the game and will remain in place covering all games at both ODI and T20I World Cups.

    "In group stages, if the Super Over is tied the match will be tied. In semi-finals and finals. the Super Over will be repeated until one team has more runs than the other."

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...eaker-following-cricket-world-cup-controversy
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  11. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Yeah read that and thankfully common sense has prevailed.

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