Pumas v Wallabies, Rosario, 5th October 2013

[mudskipper]

I would suggest after the Lions series he would have to have be considered the second best 13 in the world. The dominance of Conrad Smith has been the only thing keeping him out of a World XV.
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jeez stop it the man love its too much, he's a good honest international player... certainly not better than Jean de Villiers and Conrad Smith and no better player than Manu Tuilagi or Jamie Roberts, certainly no creativity like Brian O’Driscoll...

I'd like to see him push himself...

 

[RoffsChoice]

Let's invoke rule 10 here.

 

[cyclopath]

And so it came to pass. And it was good. And there was much rejoicing.

 

[Hawko]

Jeez a lot of people here not comfortable about qusestioning AACs current game. sadly not the same loyality about props. lol

That's because our scrum has been munted every week since the third Lions test. There hasn't been one less than average performance from AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) in that time.

 

[RoffsChoice]

Hawko, calling you out, it's over. (Nothing personal)

 

[Groucho]

No where near as good as Conrad. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) has a very low error rate and defends very well but I have to disagree with his decision making. Too many times I have seen him tuck the ball under his arms and run at the opposition when their are players in space outside him. Also he cant pass left to right very well. I think he may be forced to the bench at some stage.

Yes, Smith almost always looks to create opportunities for his support. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) almost always doesn't.

 

[Hawko]

Hawko, calling you out, it's over. (Nothing personal)

Sorry. Always a problem posting before you read all the pages.

 

[gel]

What a massive difference in perspective:

http://www.waratahs.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/157/ArticleID/10355/Default.aspx

http://www.redsrugby.com.au/News/NewsArticles/tabid/581/ArticleID/10340/Default.aspx

 

[No4918]

Incredible that the Tahs release can't find room to mention one player from the lesser clubs.

 

[RoffsChoice]

Sort of shameful. It's the Australian team, not x Reds, y Waratahs, z Brumbies, ect. Who cares if it was players from the Waratahs scoring 6/7 tries, it was Wallabies players scoring them. You don't here the Brumbies saying Brumby-Wallabies just because Lilo has scored most of our points this year.

Foley is a happy ’Wallatah’ ......... The Wallatahs continued to pile on the points

Not saying they shouldn't show pride in their players, but Wallatahs is a bit much. Maybe if the Wallabies were 14/15 Waratahs I could laugh it off.

 

[cyclopath]

Incredible that the Tahs release can't find room to mention one player from the lesser clubs.

Not incredible if you have read many missives from the Waratahs in recent years. Reality is not always their baseline.
I agree, this one is quite ridiculous.

 

[Braveheart81]

Let's give this a little bit of perspective. The article posted on the Reds website is an abbreviated version of the article posted on the ARU website.

http://www.rugby.com.au/wallabies/News/NewsArticle/tabid/1516/ArticleID/10339/Default.aspx

A few bits and pieces have been changed slightly and the Reds version is a lot shorter but many of the paragraphs are just lifted directly from the same article. It's clearly been put together from the same original piece.

The article on the Tahs website was clearly written from the Tahs perspective by the Waratahs Media Unit.

What I want to know is who is getting their match report for a Wallabies game from one of the Super Rugby franchise websites and needs that bit of information to be objective, complete and without bias? Surely everyone is reading a report from somewhere else first, which is why I have absolutely no problem with any franchise putting out an original piece entirely based on their own players participating for the Wallabies.

 

[Ignoto]

Surely everyone is reading a report from somewhere else first, which is why I have absolutely no problem with any franchise putting out an original piece entirely based on their own players participating for the Wallabies.

Me either. Their talking about their own players and for those subscribed to their respective club feeds, they'd be interested in hearing how those players are travelling.

For those throwing their hands up in disgust, perhaps widen you're readings for the next couple of weeks. It's standard practice for clubs around the world to discuss solely on their players who have played in international games. For example, this link is from Manchester United's website on their player's performances whilst on international duty;

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...nal-action-for-manchester-united-players.aspx

The Tahs, Reds etc have their own agenda which they need to push to showoff their brand. No idea why this is so shocking to some.

 

[cyclopath]

Making it 'Franchise-centric' is fine, but referring to the national team as '.........dubbed by some as the Wallatahs.........' is wankery, as no-one, apart from a Waratah press officer would use that term.

 

[Braveheart81]

Making it 'Franchise-centric' is fine, but referring to the national team as '...dubbed by some as the Wallatahs...' is wankery, as no-one, apart from a Waratah press officer would use that term.

Absolutely. I think the term is ridiculous and the article was pretty over the top. Given the likely age of the unpaid media intern at the Tahs, wanking is probably one of their favourite pasttimes so there's no surprise that this article followed that theme.

I just wanted to balance out the supposed objective reporting by the Reds to say that it wasn't a report by the Reds at all. It was just a rehash of the ARU media release.

 

[mudskipper]

Wallatahs !!!! Wall-a-buncha-wanakers.... forgive me while it just go and throw up.... Its as bad as Quade Copper refering to our jersey as yellow... eeeewwww.... jeez... I hope the ARU executive has a shot at them for abusing the Wallabies brand...

 

[St Peter]

But it is yellow

 

[cyclopath]

Wallatahs !!!! Wall-a-buncha-wanakers.. forgive me while it just go and throw up.. Its as bad as Quade Copper refering to our jersey as yellow. eeeewwww.. jeez. I hope the ARU executive has a shot at them for abusing the Wallabies brand.

What are they gonna do - sack the unpaid intern!!
This is the problem at the Waratahs - this stuff is palmed low down the tree, and not really overseen. The organisation should be more professional.
But @Braveheart81 makes a salient point - the Reds saved on even an unpaid intern by flogging ARU material!!

 

[mudskipper]

Waratahs executive are still accountable... just needs to be brought to there attention by the ARU... no one needs to be sacked...

But it is yellow

Anyone else want a gold jersey back...

 

[gel]

What are they gonna do - sack the unpaid intern!!
This is the problem at the Waratahs - this stuff is palmed low down the tree, and not really overseen. The organisation should be more professional.
But @Braveheart81 makes a salient point - the Reds saved on even an unpaid intern by flogging ARU material!!

No, he doesn't make a salient point at all.

@Braveheart81 makes an assumption that they saved money by rehashing an ARU report, whilst it could just as easily be stated that the reds made a decision to use ARU material given it was in reference to a wallaby victory and that overplaying the reds hand would be seen as being pretty poor form and a bit over the top.

I agree with absolutely everything else in your post though - hardly an intern's fault if no one above them is perusing it.

*edit* what's with the @ symbol thingie not working?