Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by RugbyReg, Jun 2, 2020.
and amazing goal kicking skills right?
Best goal kicker in the country.
Bad for the Reds but good for all of these talented players to get Super Rugby exposure.
BT unofficially commented on it by saying, “we only want players who want to be here.”
This Reesjan to centre is a theory that started here, and while I can see that, I have no evidence he won’t be a 10 at professional level.
Looks like RUPA are looking into Piccone off the back of the potential Gordon deal:
Some on here (most) would lead you to believe what he has been up to is "just business" and best practise.
What a slimy fucker, I'm genuinely impressed by that.
What he do?
The Australian is reporting the story exactly as you described today with mention of the guaranteed starting spot. Sam Cordingly not happy about the Piccone involvement.
Read the article this morning, Rebels are declining to comment , but reports of a promised starting spot just seems bonkers . You would be crazy to guarantee anyone a starting jersey, yet alone a young 10 unproven at Super level.
First crack at 10 in the preseason trials maybe , anything else would be nuts.
On a brighter note the same article mentions Zane Nonggor’s possible début and how Scott Johnson has nominated him as a 2023 WRC squad contender.
Go big Zane !
( although if the last few games are anything to go by he will be unlikely to get on the field with TT playing 80mins )
Also good to see Bobby Tuttle having a run tonight , the Australian claims 846 days overcoming injuries .
That great persistence, go well Bobby !
Multiple disappointing elements, one of the most acute being that somehow cordingly has made himself part of the furniture at QRU. His contracting and list management has been diabolical for 8 years, and second hand reports of his two-faced behaviour in contract negotiations lead me to believe that Picone is not the only dud pelican involved in getting the right players into the Reds. The whole process is a ghastly mess.
??The same Pelican that has this thread raving about the long term contracts (almost) everyone is signed on??? Many of which are very high potential individuals.
Just imagine hoe good we'd be without his shit list management! What a joke.
To be fair even though Cordingly May have turned a corner and looks like a good GM.
He did have a lot of critics previously.
I’m not going to give him the credit he is due, rather say this is more around Brad Thorn for setting a culture, blooding the talent and identifying the people who want to be in his system and want to move on.
The plan seems to be coming together. There is a lot to like with how they are doing things operationally. They have their values and their standards and they aren't compromised. Buy in or ship out. Talent is everywhere and at any organisation but the ability to achieve is really about clear identity and what you stand for. And the Reds seem to be figuring this out and getting an organisational same page.
I think it would serve Australian sports in general to create an independent review body of player managers, contracts etc. With regular audits. There aren’t many jobs where a business can have so much influence over a school age athlete, and it definitely isn’t just an issue in rugby.
The David Fifita saga in the NRL is another example of where a manager has been the root cause of an issue.
The incentive for player managers to get on board is if they get accredited by this Australia wide body, it means they are free to deal with any of the codes who have agreed to participate, thus giving them more avenues to pickup clients.
if you don’t make finals for years yes list management is a problem.
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