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Andrew Slack (58)
What's with the double standards Paarl? Ashley is about to do the chicken run and you want him to play?
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Billy Sheehan (19)
Based on the shadow teams at training today, the run on XV will be:
Probable Bok starting team: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jean de Villiers (captain), 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Sideshow Bob at fullback over Patrick Lambie is the biggest head scratcher. I guess Lambie playing 10 for the Sharks influenced this (or Meyer's blue tinted glasses)
Probable Bok starting team: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jean de Villiers (captain), 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Sideshow Bob at fullback over Patrick Lambie is the biggest head scratcher. I guess Lambie playing 10 for the Sharks influenced this (or Meyer's blue tinted glasses)
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Billy Sheehan (19)
Lol
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Andrew Slack (58)
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Rod McCall (65)
No, last time I checked he still played for the Cheetahs.
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Ted Thorn (20)
I never trust shadow teams, but if that is the run on 15 it's pretty solid. Concerns are :
JdV at 13. Poms might look to exploit his slight inexperience defensively in this position. Having said that, the pairing of Frans Steyn and JdV could be very solid.
Jannie and Bismarck. If I were the Poms I'd target these two. Jannie especially is a hothead and both are good for a few penalties. Get Bismarck playing the man rather than the ball and you eliminate one of his strengths (turnovers). Top tip for any country wanting to beat the Boks, win the scrums. Mentally, it kills the Boks
Two inexperienced locks. Both good enough mind.
Kirchner remains a bit of an enigma for me. Another player who hasn't quite made the step up to international level, but on the other hand has been playing well for the Bulls.
JdV at 13. Poms might look to exploit his slight inexperience defensively in this position. Having said that, the pairing of Frans Steyn and JdV could be very solid.
Jannie and Bismarck. If I were the Poms I'd target these two. Jannie especially is a hothead and both are good for a few penalties. Get Bismarck playing the man rather than the ball and you eliminate one of his strengths (turnovers). Top tip for any country wanting to beat the Boks, win the scrums. Mentally, it kills the Boks
Two inexperienced locks. Both good enough mind.
Kirchner remains a bit of an enigma for me. Another player who hasn't quite made the step up to international level, but on the other hand has been playing well for the Bulls.
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Rod McCall (65)
I have confidense with Jean in 13. Know he played all his schoolboy and youth rugby in this position and altho he look slow he have enough speed. You can expect him to shootup quickly in defense, just hope the two Steyns can smuther the inside. The scrums will be OK and the best fatty frontrow we could pick at the moment. I also like the two young locks, cant wait to see Etsebet in tandem with Battleship on the drive. Always good to have some soldiers in the pack specially against the Poms.
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Andrew Slack (58)
Jean did poorly at 13 for Munster and actually got dropped if memory serves.
On Kirchner. Look I don't even want him in the squad but on the other hand I can't remember him doing badly in a test. He is extremely solid. Remember he played 13 against Ireland as well and was very solid and not phased by playing out of position.
He is not flash but will take the high ball, run straight and he kicks the thing a long way. No big flashy breaks from the back but he will be good enough.
I still hope its a rumor and he picks Pat.
Eztebeth is a monster in the making. Love every second of watching him.
On Kirchner. Look I don't even want him in the squad but on the other hand I can't remember him doing badly in a test. He is extremely solid. Remember he played 13 against Ireland as well and was very solid and not phased by playing out of position.
He is not flash but will take the high ball, run straight and he kicks the thing a long way. No big flashy breaks from the back but he will be good enough.
I still hope its a rumor and he picks Pat.
Eztebeth is a monster in the making. Love every second of watching him.
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Andrew Slack (58)
Not a good view. When Goosen makes it to the Bok squad next year, and he should, then will Lambie be sitting on the bench for the rest of his career?
Ridiculous, Lambie need to start at 15.
"Frans Steyn is for me the best at inside centre because you then effectively have two flyhalves."
What!?
Ridiculous, Lambie need to start at 15.
"Frans Steyn is for me the best at inside centre because you then effectively have two flyhalves."
What!?
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Cyril Towers (30)
Quite scary isn't it? I seem to remember reading all along that Meyer sees Lambie as a 15. Now the backs coach is saying something different? Frans Steyn a 2nd flyhalf? Surely he's joking.
What are Loubscher's coaching credentials anyway?? A couple of seasons coaching in the junior ranks at the Bulls? Does that qualify him to be the best available backline coach for the national team??
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Ted Thorn (20)
Probably referring to the Kiwi model where they often play their #12 as a second flyhalf (or at least they's what they say). That's why they have a 1st 5/8 (#10) and a 2nd 5/8 (#12). I don't believe Steyn is a fantastic flyhalf but he has played the position a fair amount, so I can understand where Loubscher is coming from.
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Rod McCall (65)
You can have three in that channel if you pick Lampie in 15.
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Andrew Slack (58)
Oh I understood that but to start talking about Frans as a flyhalf sent a shiver down my spine.
Why do I get the impression that Ricardo should not be talking to the media? It's just a feeling I have. First he talks about how we are going to run all over the Pom 10/12 channel and now this?
Shhh.
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Andrew Slack (58)
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Rod McCall (65)
South Africa:
15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jean de Villiers (captain), 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira
Substitues: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Coenie Oosthuizen, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Keegan Daniel, 20 Ruan Pienaar, 21 Pat Lambie, 22 Wynand Olivier
15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jean de Villiers (captain), 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira
Substitues: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Coenie Oosthuizen, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Keegan Daniel, 20 Ruan Pienaar, 21 Pat Lambie, 22 Wynand Olivier
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Mark Ella (57)
I would have to vote option one there Blue.
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