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The Ashes

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The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
Yep, we still have a lot of issues to deal with and plenty to think about. A decent front line spinner is the biggest problem and something we need to sort out quickly. We won't be able to go into Sydney and Melbourne with four quicks.

Count me as a fan of the DRS too.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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I reckon we should play an unchanged lineup (well, not really, but given the squad they have picked I think it is the best option). Siddle loves the MCG, and will grow another leg at home. We have Smith and Clarke to provide spin if necessary, but I don't think we should pick Beer when he is only a fraction better than those two in the first place.

As much as I would love a top line specialist spinner, we need to play the cards we have been dealt. 4 quicks is the best option.
 

RugbyFuture

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It would've probably been better to get thrashed by england this time, then the selectors would be either forced to move on or move others on, clear out the dead weight, now, with only slight glimmers of hope, the australian cricket team are going to limp along through for another 2-5 years.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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It would've probably been better to get thrashed by england this time, then the selectors would be either forced to move on or move others on, clear out the dead weight, now, with only slight glimmers of hope, the australian cricket team are going to limp along through for another 2-5 years.

What? Wash your fucking mouth out with soap. I don't care if losing the Ashes prevented a massacre of millions, I will never ever say their are any positives to come out of being thrashed by England. Ever.

There really isn't much dead weight though, only a few who aren't contributing. That will change in Melbourne.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
As a neutral this is perfect.

One all going into Boxing Day and it's still all to play for.

What else was I going to do on the 26th? Definitely not shopping.

What do you mean, 'neutral'. Surely you bloody well go for the country you live in if SA aren't playing?
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
I love how now that we've won a game, the Aussie press is talking like the Poms are done for. What fucking rubbish. We got a good track to bowl on and raised our game. The Poms are no mugs and I reckon the games will get tougher from here, especially Sydney.
 

WorkingClassRugger

David Codey (61)
I found the Stuart Clark's article in the SMH today interesting. After the 2008 India series our cricketers were 'unofficially' told to basically play nice and drop the aggressive nature of their play. A little bit of it returned in Perth and may its resurgence continue.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
I read that too. I think the players should tell CA to piss off and at the same time ask them which they would prefer: a team that is nice or team that wins cricket games. Most sledging is pretty harmless and the Indians carried on like absolute pork-chops on that tour. We should have called their bluff. It was a disgraceful affair. It was bad enough that the umpiring was so poor in the Sydney test.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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Yeah it shits me that the English press have made a couple of remarks about the ugly return of Aussie sledging, or words to that effect, when its clear the Poms (specifically Anderson and Pieterson) have been yapping like a farmer's dog all series.

I think its a bit different with the subcontinentals because there is always that element of racism that everyone gets so touchy about. But if its the Poms there are no fucking boundaries!!!
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
I was talking to a player after the WA v England tour game and he said that the English sledging is every bit as ferocious as what you'd hear on an Australian paddock. They are no angels.
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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I was talking to a player after the WA v England tour game and he said that the English sledging is every bit as ferocious as what you'd hear on an Australian paddock. They are no angels.
Considering those closest to the bat would be South Africans (Prior, Strauss, Pietersen all field in close), that's not unexpected.
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
Surely they can work out how to sledge while dropping the racial sledging from their repertoire?
 

#1 Tah

Chilla Wilson (44)
Not to take anything from our win, but surely somthing else is going on behind the scenes?

1-1 with 2 tests to go at our biggest venues and England the current holders.

How many fans would have filled the M/SCG if it was a dead rubber?
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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Prior chucks a prize tantrum re sledging:

Siddle annoyed me but I didn't challenge him to a punch-up


Well, that wasn't quite we had in mind. We came from Adelaide holding all the cards and we have certainly handed a few back by being beaten so heavily in Perth.

But in dissecting the third Test in all its aspects you have to look at it logically and say that we are still in a good place on this tour. We are going to the MCG on Boxing Day at 1-1, and if somebody had offered us that at the beginning of the tour we would have taken it.

A couple of bad days at the beginning of the match – and they were bad days – doesn't make this a poor team. A week ago we were talking about having played the perfect Test match and everything was rosy. But when you get ahead you want to stay ahead and that's the most disappointing thing.
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We have to dust ourselves down and stay away from the rubbish. It's very easy to panic and start going, "Right, this bloke out, this bloke in ... he's ineffective, he's struggling". You have to shut your mind to all that. It's a time when as an individual you must have belief in your own ability and in the team.

The opposition are allowed to play well. Mitchell Johnson returned to their side and surprised us with the way he brought the ball back but we didn't adjust quickly enough. You talk in any sport about adapting quickly to the situation and we didn't.

Everything we had set up to play him was the ball going across and not necessarily coming back but you have to respect an opponent and you have to know in the back of your mind that he could bring it back. I came in at 98 for 5 in the first innings and what happened an hour later has been the subject of some discussion. What has been written and said has been a distortion of events that will stay on the field.

Peter Siddle, the Australian fast bowler, had launched a short-pitched round-the-wicket attack. He got me out – luckily, maybe, as the ball trickled off my body on to the stumps, but out still. As I left he said something which annoyed me. It doesn't matter what he said but once you have dismissed somebody you have done the job on them.

There are not many boxing matches when a guy knocks someone out and then kicks him while he's on the floor. That isn't the way it works. I didn't enjoy him getting me out but I don't think there was a need for him to say anything after that. Having said that I didn't need to react in the way I did.

You might have seen a gesture followed by some words. What has been reported that I said is not true. I didn't offer to take him into the car park or offer to fight him after the game. I didn't say anything along those lines. I will stick by the way I play the game. I play it hard on the pitch but that's where it stays.

There has been a lot spoken about sledging in the game and how they have upped the ante. It's not an issue. There was not, from our point of view, any more or any less than in any other Ashes Test and if there was it was all in the spirit of the game.

It's Ashes Test cricket. The way the Australians see it, that's what they expect to happen, that's how the game is played. There would be something wrong if there wasn't that competitive will to win for your country.

It is being pumped up but it's irrelevant. If I saw Peter Siddle right now I would go over and talk about cricket and have a beer with him. I saw a couple of the Aussies the night after the match. There will be a lot said about it but it's not the way I want to be remembered, and it's not the way Peter Siddle will want to be remembered. What is important is how we play.

I am delighted with how I am playing as wicketkeeper.

While I don't think I was ever as bad a keeper as was sometimes reported, you have to hold your hands up, and I did drop a few catches.

But the work I have put in is really coming to fruition now. The footwork is good, I'm covering a lot of distance, the left hand is working pretty well.

Losing is a hammer blow of course but we will leave the defeat in Perth. Look at the facts of the situation, it's 1-1. If we win one game we retain the Ashes. But we intend to win the series.

Maybe he should have a word to Jimmy Anderson and Steve Finn before he whinges in the press. A case of pot and kettle if there ever was one.
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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WTF! Does Prior realise that he is a wicket keeper? They have no morals whatsoever. Whiney girl
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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We can now wait for Roebuck to defend the poor, impugned South Anglicans, the victims of the nasty, meany Australians.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
WTF! Does Prior realise that he is a wicket keeper? They have no morals whatsoever. Whiney girl

I'm sorry, but I actually agree with him. I don't think there is a lower act in cricket than giving someone a send off. Johnson and Siddle both did it, as well as a few english bowlers. This is something that could really cause a big blow up, and should (continue) to be stamped out of the game.
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
I like Phil Hughes, but how can you be considered an opener when you can't block a ball that's coming onto off stump?
 
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