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Wallabies 2019 Thread

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by Lindommer, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. Up the Guts Ken Catchpole (46)

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    More concerning are Genia’s stats. He had some nightmarish defensive shifts for the Wallabies last year and hasn’t improved for the Rebels thus far. Strange because he use not to be so bad.
  2. Brumby Runner Nick Farr-Jones (63)

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    Will seems to be in the last line of defense a lot more this year and he hasn't always made a good fist of it.
  3. Dctarget Bob Davidson (42)

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    Unfortunately for us Genia could fall off every tackle, direct them to the try line and serve them scones and tea when they score and he'll still be the starting 9.
  4. Derpus Greg Davis (50)

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    Is Genia being in the form of his life unfortunate for us? He was playing in the last line of the Wallabies, as well. He was asked to make last ditch tackles on players bigger and faster than him, regularly. Makes sense he had a low success rate.
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  5. Dctarget Bob Davidson (42)

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    The unfortunate bit is that he's such a walk in, he doesn't need to improve his defence to secure his spot.
  6. Strewthcobber Tony Shaw (54)

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    I've seen some research, for the NRL I think, that showed absolutely no correlation between missed tackles and winning games. I wonder if that holds true for rugby as well?

    I mean all being equal you'd pick the better tackler, but if it comes at the expense of defense, or putting points on the board?
  7. Up the Guts Ken Catchpole (46)

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    Genia should be our first choice nine but it would be nice if he did start making his tackles.
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  8. Silverado Jim Clark (26)

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    Like all stats, they have to be considered against other stats, in this case tackles attempted and minutes played rather than games. Also In the modern rush defense players may miss tackles but are still disruptive to the attack.
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  9. Brumby Runner Nick Farr-Jones (63)

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    ^^^ I've seen that trotted out a few times lately to excuse the missed tackles from Hooper and Hunt who are exponents of the rush defense. Does it apply to others? Who, for example?
  10. Silverado Jim Clark (26)

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    Wasn't relating it to your beloved Waratahs. Rush defense is high risk but the benefits in shutting down attack, then missed tackles are collateral damage. You've probably heard it a lot because quite a few people see it as valid
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  11. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    You'd have to analyse the missed tackles and the defensive system used.

    If you're employing a rush defence (and most sides do to some degree), the player rushing up first has the job of leading the defensive line but also trying to prevent the ball or the player getting outside them. If they turn the play back in they've probably succeeded in their aim even if they miss the tackle and the guy inside them has to make it.

    The Waratahs are averaging the least tries conceded in the Aussie conference and Hooper and Hunt are the defensive leaders of the forwards and backs respectively so they seem to be doing alright.
  12. Derpus Greg Davis (50)

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    It is a risky strategy, though. If not used in the correct system and with a set defence you are just as likely to miss and leave a hole in the defensive line.

    I don't know why more teams don't have an inside runner hanging off the ball carrier being targeted by Hunt or Hooper.
  13. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    The Reds statistically have the best tackle % in the comp but they've conceded 4 tries a game and are yet to win.
  14. The Honey Badger Bob Davidson (42)

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  15. Rebels3 John Solomon (38)

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    My team so far for the first wallabies game would be

    1. Sio
    2. Faingaa
    3. AAT
    4. Jones
    5. Rodda
    6. McCaffrey
    7. Pocock
    8. Naisarani
    9. Genia (c)
    10. Cooper
    11. Folau
    12. Kerevi
    13. Hunt
    14. Banks
    15. Beale

    16. BPA
    17. Slipper
    18. Tupou
    19. Coleman/Philip
    20. Salakaia-Loto (Toomua if want to go 5/3 split)
    21. Hooper
    22. Gordon
    23. Hodge
  16. RugbyReg Phil Waugh (73)

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    Beale's selection is an interesting one. I can't say I've seen much from him this season.
  17. Brumby Runner Nick Farr-Jones (63)

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    Good side R3. I wouldn't have Hunt at 13 - he hasn't played any time in the position this year as far as I know. I would also not have Beale in the side at all. He is all reputation these days. He has almost no impact on a game.

    13 I would have Kuridrani and 15 would be DHP. I am also a bit surprised that you favour Jones over Philip. To an outsider, it looks like Philip is in better form. What are you seeing that others don't?

    I really do like the look of that backrow.
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  18. wamberal Steve Williams (59)

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    I have, and what I have seen would not support his selection for Eastwood thirds, frankly.
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  19. Adam84 Ward Prentice (10)

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    If it’s purely on form, then Beale isn’t in the mix.

    But surely it’s an objective approach, we can’t simply forget what players have done in the past, Beale is one of the few Australian players who can prove a point of difference at test level. Any test selection without Beale is just crazy, he is 100% in the 23 for any wallabies squad selected.
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  20. wamberal Steve Williams (59)

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    Objectivity should come into it, for sure. How far back is "the past"? Last season? The season before?

    How about we pick players on current form? Or potential? Or a mixture of both. Not on nostalgia.
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