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Wallabies 2019 Thread

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by Lindommer, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. Up the Guts Ken Catchpole (46)

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    Yes in the backs I’d have:

    9. Genia
    10. Cooper
    11. Koroibete
    12. Kerevi
    13. Kurindrani
    14. Folau
    15. DHP

    11 is really up for grabs but I do think Koroibete is a lot better with a proper 10 and he can play a Digby Ioane type role. The dual carriage K train in the centres also works well but you could easily have Toomua at 12 in place of Koroibete. DHP, Folau, and Kurindrani all pick themselves.
  2. Rebels3 Nicholas Shehadie (39)

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    Jones has been immense this year, last week the game changed once he came on (admittedly Philip was carrying an injury) and week 1 dominated a very good Brums lineout, was also fairly decent against a good Highlanders pack.

    Philip has been very good as well, but a Jones/Rodda combo has some serious defensive lineout ability.

    Beale has been okay, he wasn’t good last night but far from bad. Last week against the reds he played pretty well and was one of the best players on the field against the Sunwolves (he missed week 1). His best is still one of the best in Australia, I’d almost go as far as saying other teams would be laughing with joy if he was dropped.

    Kerevi is the best 12 and can bail out the 9/10 with a run at the gain line (plus more than likely to win it) and I like Hunts ability to distribute, he’s also an exceptional defender and can do the hard yards when needed. Placing Kerevi and Kurindrani would be very limited, also allows the outside defenders to rush up and in because they haven’t got the ability to spread the ball over the top, just encourages gang tackles limiting their effectiveness.

    Folau for his brilliance and ability to dictate to the opposing team which side of the field is kicked to and Banks on the other wing for pace and the fact he’s also decent under the high ball.

    Brums front row is just solid, plus get some work rate out of them.

    Back row, despite McCaffreys efforts of late Naisarani is still clearly the best 8 in the country, Pocock obvious at 7 and McCaffrey pips Dempsey because he’s an alrounder that offers some go forward and ability over the ball. Plus he’s more suited to a tighter game

    If the starting XV wasn’t available I’d have the following

    1. Slipper
    2. BPA
    3. Tupou
    4. Arnold
    5. Coleman
    6. Dempsey
    7. Hooper
    8. Higgers/Timu
    9. Gordon
    10. Foley
    11. Koroibete
    12. Toomua
    13. Kurindrani
    14. Maddocks
    15. DHP

    Yes I am bored
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  3. Rebels3 Nicholas Shehadie (39)

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    Beale hasn’t been that bad in his 3 games

    Vs hurricanes = DNP
    Vs Sunwolves = one of the best on the field - 7/10
    Vs reds = one of the best on the field - 7/10
    Vs Brums = average game but not bad - 5/10

    Not setting the world alight but not ‘out of form’
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  4. Adam84 Darby Loudon (17)

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    Nostalgia would be selecting Giteau, Mitchell and Ashley Cooper. Selecting players based on test performances in the preceding test window months is more to the point.

    You obviously find a balance between the two. Reward form where necessary, select on previous performance and experience when warranted. All Blacks have followed a similar mantra for the past decade.
  5. Slim 293 Jason Little (69)

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    If McCaffrey keeps playing the way he has.... definitely has to be there for the Wallabies.
  6. Adam84 Darby Loudon (17)

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    I think McCaffery could have a role in the Wallabies squad, the whole openside/no.8 is still wide open at this point. Throw in Nasairani and Luke Jones, and it could look drastically different to the back row of 2018.
  7. KOB1987 Tony Shaw (54)

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    I don't get the Banks love, I'm a known sceptic of his ability to step up at international level but as always I'm happy to be proven wrong. However..as it stands at the moment he's done nowhere near enough this season to put himself ahead of any of Koroibete, DHP, or Maddocks, and if there was a raft of injuries I'd still have any of Hodge, Beale, English or Rona on the wing ahead of him.

    Hunt no chance for 13, he's an outside chance for 12 depending on how the other 13 options are looking.

    I agree with some of the other posters that Beale has been better than an Eastwood 3rd grader but I like him in the 23 jersey.

    I really do like the way McCaffrey is playing, I'm just not sure if a RWC year is the right time to ask a 28 year old to step up, through no fault of his own he may have left his run too late. I do hope they give him a shot though.

    And I fear for the likelihood of Pocock getting through to Japan. As it stands at the moment Hooper is the form #7, I'd have Samu as the deputy without a fit Poey.
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  8. Derpus Peter Sullivan (51)

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    Naisarani was a beast last night.
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  9. Dctarget Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Agreed. Was going to say he was a smokie but nothing smokie about that performance.

    Actual genuine smokies so far for me would be McCaffery, Rangi and Meakes. None of them will make the XV but they should on form.
  10. Brumby Runner Nick Farr-Jones (63)

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    With you KOB on Banks. His potential is obvious, but there are aspects of his game that still need more polish to be considered at Wallaby level. Decision making at the forefront. I would have him in front of one or two of those you mention, but not yet in the Wallaby 23.

    Hunt yet has to prove himself to be better than the alternatives. If he's not playing 13, then he cannot prove to better than others in that spot. I am not yet sold on the reputation he has for being a dominant defender. I reckon you can count on him missing two or three simple tackles each game. He might be a better distributor than some others, but atm he seems to mostly be used as a crash ball No 12 whose main game is quick recycle rather than distribution.

    McCaffrey's other attribute that hasn't been mentioned much is his lineout ability. Would sit nicely at No 6. I like the thought of a backrow comprising McCaffrey, Pocock, Naisarani.

    I have to say that I would not consider Beale in any capacity at Wallaby level. His negatives outweigh any positives, and he is operating on reputation at the moment.
  11. wamberal Steve Williams (59)

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    Agree about Beale, but I reckon Hunt is better than you say.

    Did you see Lukhan yesterday? I would have him at 6 ahead of Mr DLP.
  12. Dctarget Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Thought Jones was the best of the 6s this weekend. Better performance than LSL and against better opposition.
  13. RugbyReg Phil Waugh (73)

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    LSL didn't play 6
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  14. Adam84 Darby Loudon (17)

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    Ironically, LSL's work-rate given he was playing lock was bloody impressive
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  15. Dctarget Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Apologies. Apples & oranges then!
  16. barbarian Michael Lynagh (62)

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    A backrow of LSL, Pocock and Naisirani would be bloody physical. Covers lineout too. Not that mobile though.

    I like McCaffrey, but Reg said it well earlier. There's a chance he's Scott Fardy 2.0, but he also could be Richard Brown 2.0 - nice at Super level but just lacking that physical edge you need in test rugby.

    He's been really good thus far though, and worthy of a squad pick at least. Not sure he'll get it though.
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  17. Dctarget Chilla Wilson (44)

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    To be honest any backrow including Naisrani feels more balanced already. I'd be happy with your suggestion or Jones in at 6.
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  18. Jimmy_Crouch Syd Malcolm (24)

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    I'm not sure what I am missing. No one seems to want to pick Hooper.
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  19. barbarian Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Start LSL, but bring Hooper on at half time or just after. I've heard worse ideas on here.
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  20. Up the Guts Ken Catchpole (46)

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    If LSL could just drop his body height on the right occasion he'd be damn near unstoppable.

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