Wallabies 2023

[Members Section]

he’s back! & after a 1 win season he’s going to lead them to miss relegation lol

& it will keep a few of the old timey ignorant boomers on here happy they beat Izzy’s side

 

[Sword of Justice]

I think Eddie will be looking at Carter Gordon and making a comparison with Owen Farrell.

Similar builds, both love to lead with the shoulder in tackles (Gordon to this point consistently a lot lower than Farrell), runs straight.

Gordon doesn't appear to have quite the single minded determination of Farrell, which is almost peerless to be fair, but does appear to have a few more tricks and a little more nuance in play making. Of course he's rougher around the edges than Farrell at this stage of his career and does make more mistakes.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Jones included him in the squad; I'm certain he feels Gordon has a foundation he can work with to create a brilliant 10, and quickly.

 

[Rebel man]

I think Eddie will be looking at Carter Gordon and making a comparison with Owen Farrell.

Similar builds, both love to lead with the shoulder in tackles (Gordon to this point consistently a lot lower than Farrell), runs straight.

Gordon doesn't appear to have quite the single minded determination of Farrell, which is almost peerless to be fair, but does appear to have a few more tricks and a little more nuance in play making. Of course he's rougher around the edges than Farrell at this stage of his career and does make more mistakes.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Jones included him in the squad; I'm certain he feels Gordon has a foundation he can work with to create a brilliant 10, and quickly.

Carter Gordon is who Jones will build his backline around

 

[Derpus]

Carter Gordon is who Jones will build his backline around

Not this year he won't. He doesn't even kick goals.

 

[rugbyAU]

Carter Gordon is a breath of fresh air. He is already much more than an exciting prospect. He has proven to be the best No 10 in the land, confirmed again today. He still has so much improvement, growth and development in him, it is scary. He is a must for the second No 10 spot in the RWC squad.

Tom Wright had another terrible game, interspersed by myriads of brain explosions and absolute fuckups. Shame he outplayed Andrew Kellaway today and again confirmed he is the best of our current No 15 options.

Tom Wright played well? 127m from 11 carries, think he was also POTM

 

[Rebel man]

Not this year he won't. He doesn't even kick goals.

He’ll be the goal kicker next year and I don’t expect him to start this year. But obviously at 35 Jones isn’t planning to build around Cooper for 25 and 27

 

[Sword of Justice]

Not this year he won't. He doesn't even kick goals.

There'll certainly be White and Cooper as well as a good chance of Hodge and possibly Lonergan. I feel like I'm forgetting another obvious kicker. If any of those players are injured we'll be replacing them after the wait period with a goal kicker for sure.

 

[Mr Pilfer]

The performance by both fly halves today was great news for Australian rugby. I think both should certainly be picked ahead of Foley and JOC (James O'Connor). If Quade breaks down again then good to know we have 2 good options ready to go

 

[fatprop]

I think Eddie will be looking at Carter Gordon and making a comparison with Owen Farrell.

Similar builds, both love to lead with the shoulder in tackles (Gordon to this point consistently a lot lower than Farrell), runs straight.

Gordon doesn't appear to have quite the single minded determination of Farrell, which is almost peerless to be fair, but does appear to have a few more tricks and a little more nuance in play making. Of course he's rougher around the edges than Farrell at this stage of his career and does make more mistakes.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Jones included him in the squad; I'm certain he feels Gordon has a foundation he can work with to create a brilliant 10, and quickly.

Gordon showed with that cut out pass why he is getting the hype, Noah was solid, ran good support lines to score a couple of tries but lacks the ability Gordon has to unpick defences

 

[Members Section]

Gordon showed with that cut out pass why he is getting the hype, Noah was solid, ran good support lines to score a couple of tries but lacks the ability Gordon has to unpick defences

Defensively Carter is that far in front as well

 

[duckbill]

Carter Gordon as understudy to QC (Quade Cooper) - there's hope for the future at no 10 after all

 

[stillmissit]

The performance by both fly halves today was great news for Australian rugby. I think both should certainly be picked ahead of Foley and JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor). If Quade breaks down again then good to know we have 2 good options ready to go

I also thought Noah had a good game. He realises that C.Gordon is serious competition both at this cup and the next couple of years.
Great to see both of them playing well but my money is still on Gordon. Don't think Donaldson is stepping up and that's a worry at this time of the year with Eddie looking very closely at them whilst grinning like a cat.

 

[dusk]

I also thought Noah had a good game. He realises that C.Gordon is serious competition both at this cup and the next couple of years.
Great to see both of them playing well but my money is still on Gordon. Don't think Donaldson is stepping up and that's a worry at this time of the year with Eddie looking very closely at them whilst grinning like a cat.

Aside from Raw talent, Gordon's body language is just so much more electric than both Noah and Donaldson's. Seems like he actually enjoys playing.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Gordon showed with that cut out pass why he is getting the hype, Noah was solid, ran good support lines to score a couple of tries but lacks the ability Gordon has to unpick defences

That pass was elite. He's developing nicely.

 

[Rugbyman2023]

a few good wallabies battles over the weekend
Mcreight just got the chocolates over hooper, I think both these guys need to go as specialist 7s

also rebels scrum for brumbies a coupe of times, but talakai and gibbon did not originally get selected
Kellaway and Wright were close
Also why did it take a match against Gorden for noah to finally do something, he now needs to show that form for the rest of the year not just a one off game! Gorden still in front of noah atm

for the backrow if they take 2 x 7s with hooper and Mcreight, valetini is a certain and Samu so only 2 spots left, so potentially Gleeson and Wilson May both miss out
Leota and Holloway probs 2 x 6, allthough they could put Holloway as the 4th lock and get an extra back rower in the squad potentially?
also shame Hardwick is not eligible, he is playing awesome rugby atm

 

[rodha]

for the backrow if they take 2 x 7s with hooper and Mcreight, valetini is a certain and Samu so only 2 spots left, so potentially Gleeson and Wilson May both miss out

No McReight or Hooper in the 23, can't select light-weight forwards who cannot dominate collisions at the high level.

We have to increase pack size in order to win the Bled and "bring back Bill". Querty is on the right track re: Gleeson>Hooper.

Bell, Porecki, Aalaatoa, Rodda, Skelton, Frost at 6, Gleeson at 7, Valentini, White, Cooper, Koirebete, Kerevi, Ikitau, Nawaqanitawase, Kellaway.

Slipper, BPA, Tupou, Philipp, T.Hooper, McDermott, Gordon, Petaia.

 

[Rugbyman2023]

No McReight or Hooper in the 23, can't select light-weight forwards who cannot dominate collisions at the high level.

We have to increase pack size in order to win the Bled and "bring back Bill". Querty is on the right track re: Gleeson>Hooper.

Bell, Porecki, Aalaatoa, Rodda, Skelton, Frost at 6, Gleeson at 7, Valentini, White, Cooper, Koirebete, Kerevi, Ikitau, Nawaqanitawase, Kellaway.

Slipper, BPA, Tupou, Philipp, T.Hooper, McDermott, Gordon, Petaia.

So off this logic Ardie Savea I rate as the best forward in the game is too light weight to play for the all blacks and can’t dominate collisions? He is only a kg or 2 more than hooper! And dominates everyone! Josh van der flier is 2kg heavier and got player of the world but is not big enough?
porecki is not big and does get dominated in collisions so you have picked the wrong person there
And just because someone is big this does not mean they do dominate collisions!
It’s about rounding a pack out, if you have 7 large forwards you can get away with a smaller forward that does a huge amount of work off the ball! You have no one with work rate. If you watched a game and how much a good 7 does they act as two players, and up to the other 7 to get over the gain line!
Gleeson at 7? The bloke can barely get through 60 min at 8!

 

[Namerican]

So off this logic Ardie Savea I rate as the best forward in the game is too light weight to play for the all blacks and can’t dominate collisions? He is only a kg or 2 more than hooper! And dominates everyone! Josh van der flier is 2kg heavier and got player of the world but is not big enough?
porecki is not big and does get dominated in collisions so you have picked the wrong person there
And just because someone is big this does not mean they do dominate collisions!
It’s about rounding a pack out, if you have 7 large forwards you can get away with a smaller forward that does a huge amount of work off the ball! You have no one with work rate. If you watched a game and how much a good 7 does they act as two players, and up to the other 7 to get over the gain line!
Gleeson at 7? The bloke can barely get through 60 min at 8!

Bigger is only better if they can do everything a smaller guy can do. A lot of them can't or you'd just be starting nothing but second row types in the back row and playing Tupou at 8.

Even in international rugby you don't have many 6'5, 250 lb #7s.

You also need some people that get places quickly for 80 minutes. If Leota or Gleeson can do that then great, play them at 7. Until then, you can't.

 

[liquor box]

No McReight or NSW.Hooper in the 23, can't select light-weight forwards who cannot dominate collisions at the high level.

We have to increase pack size in order to win the Bled and "bring back Bill". Querty is on the right track re: Gleeson>Hooper.

Bell, Porecki, Aalaatoa, Rodda, Skelton, Frost at 6, Gleeson at 7, Valentini, White, Cooper, Koirebete, Kerevi, Ikitau, Nawaqanitawase, Kellaway.

Slipper, BPA, Tupou, Philipp, ACT.Hooper, McDermott, Gordon, Petaia.

Do you think bigger players tend to rely on their size to get a turnover but smaller players use their speed and brain to get the ball?

McReight gets so much ball because of his speed and choosing when to try to pilfer. He is big enough for his job

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

a few good wallabies battles over the weekend
Mcreight just got the chocolates over hooper, I think both these guys need to go as specialist 7s

also rebels scrum for brumbies a coupe of times, but talakai and gibbon did not originally get selected
Kellaway and Wright were close
Also why did it take a match against Gorden for noah to finally do something, he now needs to show that form for the rest of the year not just a one off game! Gorden still in front of noah atm

for the backrow if they take 2 x 7s with hooper and Mcreight, valetini is a certain and Samu so only 2 spots left, so potentially Gleeson and Wilson May both miss out
Leota and Holloway probs 2 x 6, allthough they could put Holloway as the 4th lock and get an extra back rower in the squad potentially?
also shame Hardwick is not eligible, he is playing awesome rugby atm

I don't think Samu is a lock for the squad at all. I think Gleeson has jumped ahead of him and is outplaying him on both sides of the ball. Playing 60 mins doesn't concern me right now because the week before he got through 40 now 60 and I hope it ramps up to 70. (finally we are bringing players back effectively) Gleeson off a bench with 30 mins left could be very effective.

Holloway will be in the squad the way he's playing. Gives you a lot of flexibility in the 23