Wallabies versus Wales- SFS
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Joe Mac
Arch Winning (36)
Or we could use Sharpe to develop Timani at this level? I don't see how we are gambling on one player and developing another?
ChargerWA
Mark Loane (55)
Because Pyle appears to have a more polished skill set but lacks Timani's X factor. Even though still young, he is more of a known quantity than Timani. If they both develop to their full potential, Timani should be the superior Lock, but at this point I would rate Pyle as a 90% likelihood of developing to his full potential, with Timani at 50%.
It's like backing a horse at long odd's, the payoff is better but less likely to come.
It's like backing a horse at long odd's, the payoff is better but less likely to come.
Scotty
David Codey (61)
I think Hooper is also there to cover a back position at a pinch. Would do fine in the IC channel.
Scoey
Tony Shaw (54)
I would've liked to see Harris keep his bench spot too but on the games won thing, I remember Beale kicking us to victory against Sth Africa after full time from a similar spot, albeit it on the other side of the field. So that would make it one all in the games won stakes.
It was also back in the day when we couldn't seem to beat anyone and I think the victory over the Saffas was even on thier turf. That was the day I started liking Kurtley Beale.
The kick KB (Kurtley Beale) slotted in Bloemfontein was much more difficult than Harris' kick last Saturday. It was from a lot further out. KB (Kurtley Beale) took it because he is the long range kicker. Harris certainly can't kick that far, even at altitude.
That said, it's kind of an irrelevant comparison. I think KB (Kurtley Beale) has provided much more to the Wallabies in recent years than just that penalty goal. KB (Kurtley Beale) is never in the side for his goalkicking whereas that is the biggest asset Harris has. In most Wallaby teams KB (Kurtley Beale) is going to be our third choice kicker.
That said, it's kind of an irrelevant comparison. I think KB (Kurtley Beale) has provided much more to the Wallabies in recent years than just that penalty goal. KB (Kurtley Beale) is never in the side for his goalkicking whereas that is the biggest asset Harris has. In most Wallaby teams KB (Kurtley Beale) is going to be our third choice kicker.
Scoey
Tony Shaw (54)
Yeah my comment was completely tongue in cheek. I never meant to say Aussie Mike was in the same league as Kurtley. I was more trying to poke fun at the Harris will win you more games than Beale comment.
Shiggins
Simon Poidevin (60)
I just dislike the centers. Both Horne and mcabe are to similar. If JOC (James O'Connor)
Was in there with one of them I think the bl would be so much more potent.
Http://www.youtube.com/shiggins316
Was in there with one of them I think the bl would be so much more potent.
Http://www.youtube.com/shiggins316
DPK
Peter Sullivan (51)
I think their similarity creates an element of synergy. Also they're not carbon copies of each other and the differences in their abilities still gives that centre combination enough dynamism.
Also I just think Pat McCabe is awesome. He will literally run at anything (sometimes this isn't helpful but for the most part I love his boldness).
Also I just think Pat McCabe is awesome. He will literally run at anything (sometimes this isn't helpful but for the most part I love his boldness).
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
I would've liked to see Harris keep his bench spot too but on the games won thing, I remember Beale kicking us to victory against Sth Africa after full time from a similar spot, albeit it on the other side of the field. So that would make it one all in the games won stakes.
It was also back in the day when we couldn't seem to beat anyone and I think the victory over the Saffas was even on thier turf. That was the day I started liking Kurtley Beale.
Fair comment Scoey, those moments seem to stick with us, in some ways more than great tries, probably because a conversion/penalty goal can win you a game more often than a try, (or does that just appear to be the case). Some other such occassions that come to mind involved John Eales, Stirlo and JOC (James O'Connor), but I suspect there are dozens of such moments in the Wallaby's history!
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
Mike Harris: 9 points from 2 tests (one lasting 6 minutes) = 4.5 average.
Kurtley Beale: 51 points from 22 tests = 2.31 average.
Perhaps you're the one with the health problem dear chap!
On that logic should we just select a team of 15 goalkickers?
p.Tah
John Thornett (49)
works for the Sydney Swans
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Are you suggesting Julian Huxley should be in the squad over Beale?
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
Scoey, referring to the stats. from my above post (replying to Slim 293), and given they are both 23 years old, we will see at the end of their careers how they line up! So far, on "value to the team" (on points scored), MH is way ahead of KB (Kurtley Beale). I don't dislike KB (Kurtley Beale), however some members are making unrealistic comparisons when Harris is only just starting his test career.
Compare their pre-test careers, there's nothing in it:
MH: North Harbour and Reds = 392 points from 50 matches = 7.84 average.
KB (Kurtley Beale): Warratahs and Rebels = 393 points from 50 matches = 7.86 average.
You may have forgotten that MH broke the Super Rugby record for consecutive goals kicked (24). You probably don't know that he broke John Eales' Queensland and Australian record for most goals kicked in a match with 9 (7 penalties and 2 conversions), which makes your comment that I have highlighted look pretty stupid, Scoey!!
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