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NSW AAGPS 2018

Tip the 2018 AAGPS 1st XV Premiers


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Black & White

Vay Wilson (31)
No 15Ds this week - assume that injuries meant that they didn't have enough.

13Fs played Augustine's at Narrabeen (not sure why as I assume SJC would have plenty of teams to play against), all other Newington teams at Hunters Hill.

Very little difference between one team and the next as you move down the grades at Joeys, whereas because of fewer teams there's sometimes a marked difference from one team to the next one down at Newington.

It's always a great day playing Joeys, they play a nice brand of tough rugby with high skill and pace.

14s remains the standout age group at Newington. 14As was a great game, most closer than the final score might suggest. New scored 3 converted tries in the last 10 minutes to take it from 13-12 to 34-12.

13As were expecting to be more competitive, but clearly it's a very strong Joeys team in that age group.

Thanks QH, yes strange reasoning about the 13Fs and nice to know we still have a 15Ds side. I get the impression that New sides were really competitive today.Outstanding effort by the 14s age group. Was your young fellow in any of those 14s sides that won. If he was, I bet he is skyhigh with that win. As Old Boy experiences like that, I assure you, will last a long time.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Thanks QH, yes strange reasoning about the 13Fs and nice to know we still have a 15Ds side. I get the impression that New sides were really competitive today.Outstanding effort by the 14s age group. Was your young fellow in any of those 14s sides that won. If he was, I bet he is skyhigh with that win. As Old Boy experiences like that, I assure you, will last a long time.

Indeed he was. As I said to him, coming away from Hunter's Hill with a win is something not not everybody gets to do.

EDIT: And yes, from the results posted by Joker, New were competitive all day. 16As sounded like a great game (was at the same time as 14Bs who were a couple of fields away). For New to get that close with the 3 best 16s playing either firsts or seconds is an excellent result as far as I can see. Joeys very lucky as their depth means that they rarely have to promote boys out of 16As.
 

Up the Guts

Steve Williams (59)
In brighter news, Shore sent their u15 side to the Gold Coast Rugby Carnival and won the u15 division undefeated, drawing with Kings in the round and defeating them in the final. Plans for a few players in the 15s go bypass the 16s and go to the Opens next year for Shore.
 

WLF

Arch Winning (36)
In brighter news, Shore sent their u15 side to the Gold Coast Rugby Carnival and won the u15 division undefeated, drawing with Kings in the round and defeating them in the final. Plans for a few players in the 15s go bypass the 16s and go to the Opens next year for Shore.


UTG's,

How did the Shore 15as go today v Kings, and does anyone know how the view 15as went against Scots 15as?
 

One eyed pirate

Ward Prentice (10)
Unsure, will try and find out for you. I know the 14as for Shore won after knocking Joeys off earlier in the season so good signs for Shore albeit a while away.
I hope you are right but Shore are almost always very competitive in the younger age groups as the boys are right into their club sport. The problem is that as club sport tails off, as the boys get older, so do the Shore results in the older years. It also happens in soccer and afl. There is a problem with the sporting culture in the school. I notice the successful rowers do much of their training in camps away from the school. Shore were totally outclassed today in both firsts and seconds. The Kings firsts bombed a few try’s and it could have easily been 70-80 to nil. Frankly, both the shore and kings crowd lost interest. The faces of the shore firsts after showers indicated that they are also losing interest.
 

formerflanker

Ken Catchpole (46)
I hope you are right but Shore are almost always very competitive in the younger age groups as the boys are right into their club sport. The problem is that as club sport tails off, as the boys get older, so do the Shore results in the older years. It also happens in soccer and afl. There is a problem with the sporting culture in the school. I notice the successful rowers do much of their training in camps away from the school. Shore were totally outclassed today in both firsts and seconds. The Kings firsts bombed a few try’s and it could have easily been 70-80 to nil. Frankly, both the shore and kings crowd lost interest. The faces of the shore firsts after showers indicated that they are also losing interest.

I'm sure there are many reasons for Shore having a dismal win/loss ratio in the 1sts over the last several years. Many of those reasons have been debated extensively on the Thread That Shall Not Be Mentioned.
Shore is a huge rugby school and essential to the continued health of GPS rugby. However it's recent record in 1sts must draw into question the educational benefits of staying in the competition. High and Grammar withdrew for exactly the same reason.
If the Shore Headmaster continues to refuse (or at best minimise) sporting scholarships, then all the best training regimes in the world will not lift their results because the "cattle" are not available. Despite a lot of effort by the school in upgrading their training programs, the 1sts are still losing.
Can you imagine what it was like for the boys when they played two rounds of GPS comp without a win?
At least one round enables more equitable match-ups during the trials.
Sustained losing seasons at 1st XV level does the players no good, isn't good for the school as a whole, and gives the other GPS schools a lop sided game whenever they play Shore.

I'd suggest that Shore 1sts play all other GPS 2nds from next year onwards.
 

O.J.

Frank Row (1)
Yeah. View played better in 2nd half. But they just dropped way too much ball to really put any sustained pressure on Scots. Not sure why they played Bell at 10 and Dutallis at 15. Disjointed performance from View. Scots never looked like losing and played good footy in stages.
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I think it’s best to say that Angus Bell played better in the 2nd half being instrumental in three tries. The forwards were comprehensively beaten all day in every aspect making it impossible for the backs to contribute. A squad with such promise at the beginning of the year appears to have lost direction and team unity. Until Riverview get a strong coaching staff in that isn’t influenced by a powerful parental body they will not succeed at GPS level.
 

Joker

Greg Davis (50)
Discuss

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Joker

Greg Davis (50)
Until Riverview get a strong coaching staff in that isn’t influenced by a powerful parental body they will not succeed at GPS level.

Comes with the territory as a 1st XV coach.
You buy the land, you get the Indians
 
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