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NSW AAGPS 2022

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Peter Burge (5)
Here are my 2 cents on the previous round that was Scots against Kings.
Firstly would like to congratulate Kings on a stellar effort and demonstrated a masterclass in wet weather footy, playing excellent field position which essentially was the downfall of Scots. In fact their kicking game was so good that three out of their four tries were from kick chase. My first point to be made is that Scots saw the same weakness that they had against Newington, execution. I can't remember how many opportunities Scots had within Kings 22 but it was far more than kings had in theirs. Things saw to be a bit clunky in that area with miss passes, penalties conceded, and unforced errors.

My second point, although I am a strong believer of 'play the ball not the man', was the referee. Scots showed their dominance up front once again (with still in my opinion the best forward pack in the GPS) with their not so secret rolling maul. It was chaotic for Kings to defend and they had to resort to illegality in order to save their skin. One instance in particular Scots set a rolling maul on the kings side of the touchline and it picked up considerable steam, looking like it could go all the way from the 40, until a Kings player went around the side and illegally sacked a potential try. the act was left unsanctioned and a scrum to Kings. A few other instances like held up calls that looked to be clear tries, but those are 50/50.

In terms of standout players, Scots 15 very clear standout setting up a key try from a solo break resultant of strong running and sidestepping. Scots 10 again showing his ability to kick well, looking like the 'George Ford' of this Scots team with game management. Scots 6 and 7 each respectively having solid games, as well as the replacement back rower having a good impact and intensity which was much needed for Scots in the finishing third of the game. Both wingers played well with good defensive cover and kick cover, both look to have some serious pace which is handy. And it would feel wrong to leave out Scots 9, constantly having goes at the defense around the ruck keeping defenders guessing.

In conclusion I think this is nothing but a learning curve for Scots. From what I saw yesterday Zach Fittler needs more involvement. The ball in his hands in space is a serious weapon, we saw it against Barker, and now against kings. Give him the ball. potentially a move into the centres could do that for Scots, or simply making him more involved in set piece moves. A loss is a loss, but for the coaching staff and team, part of a loss is a win, because that loss shows you how to improve, which is all that matters between now and the first GPS round.
Interesting hearing a Scot’s supporters view on the game. But two sides to every coin. The kings forwards were far more mobile and maintained the intensity throughout the game. Unfortunately for Scots they lost one of their front rowers early on which no doubt effected the plan.

it’s always easy afterwards to criticise a ref’s decisions and only by watching a replay could one clarify some mistakes. But let me point out two fairly clear decisions that would have really changed the result (and not for the Scots side)

About 6min into the second half the Scots number 6 both late and with an elbow connected with the head of the kings 15. In the modern game would have result in a red card which wasn’t called by the linesman, nor was a red card given to the three players who took out the number 8 in the air from a kick off. So I agree play the ball not the man.

the game was a cracker and as with other members this season will be a good one to watch.
 

Love2Scrum

Alfred Walker (16)
Hello B&W
Not here to disappoint you with my comments
But seriously this 1stXV backline is not in sync.
It maybe to late to fix it before first round of GPS
Never too late Rippa.

Two or three more trial games before the GPS Competition begins and the Achilles heel will be back at full strength.
 

wyvernboy

Banned
Love2Scrum, Dusk, Balck and White

With Oliver Townsend returning this week or next, What would be your New backline ? Not getting any bites from Rippa.

9 Dickens 10 McGregor 11 Quin 12 Barton 13 Townsend 14 J McLean 15 Takamou

After watching them on Sat, JMcLean and Takamou run the ball well when they decide to do it ( and should do it more often ) McLean's defence is wobbly at times so having Townsend at 13 gives you a second flyhalf to connect to the wingers/fullback. Barton is a solid defender and ball runner.
9 and 10 are playing well. The combos need to keep improving but ok at the moment.

Wyvernboy
 

Love2Scrum

Alfred Walker (16)
Love2Scrum, Dusk, Balck and White

With Oliver Townsend returning this week or next, What would be your New backline ? Not getting any bites from Rippa.

9 Dickens 10 McGregor 11 Quin 12 Barton 13 Townsend 14 J McLean 15 Takamou

After watching them on Sat, JMcLean and Takamou run the ball well when they decide to do it ( and should do it more often ) McLean's defence is wobbly at times so having Townsend at 13 gives you a second flyhalf to connect to the wingers/fullback. Barton is a solid defender and ball runner.
9 and 10 are playing well. The combos need to keep improving but ok at the moment.

Wyvernboy
Based on the games I watched against St Augustine and Waverley, I would go with;

9.Dickens
10. McGregor
11. C. McLean
12. Barton
13. Quinn
14. Taukamo
15. J. McLean
 

Black & White

Vay Wilson (31)
Love2Scrum, Dusk, Balck and White

With Oliver Townsend returning this week or next, What would be your New backline ? Not getting any bites from Rippa.

9 Dickens 10 McGregor 11 Quin 12 Barton 13 Townsend 14 J McLean 15 Takamou

After watching them on Sat, JMcLean and Takamou run the ball well when they decide to do it ( and should do it more often ) McLean's defence is wobbly at times so having Townsend at 13 gives you a second flyhalf to connect to the wingers/fullback. Barton is a solid defender and ball runner.
9 and 10 are playing well. The combos need to keep improving but ok at the moment.

Wyvernboy
Hello Wyvernboy

Unfortunately, due to work commitments, I am unable to engross myself, with details of this year's Newington's 1stXV or even attend matches Hence, my reliance on you,Dusk and Lovetoscrum for the updates. Even, Rippa makes a good contribution, although somewhat negative at times. But he makes a contribution and for that I appreciate his commentary. Occasionally, we need a Devil's advocate and so long as your comment's are not wholly negative or vicious, keep making them, Rippa.

And what updates you bring, gentlemen. In past years, Newington never got the coverage, it is getting this year on this site. Your commentaries are detailed, interesting and well balanced. They are a joy to read. So Dusk, Love2scum, WyvernBoy and even you Rippa,so keep it up your good work. Your presence on this site, has lifted the standard commentary, immeasurably for the better. Furthermore, none you talk crap about things not really related to GPS Rugby. As Joker can confine, we use to get a few nutters in the past, who were positively certifiable.

Regards
Black & White
 

dusk

Cyril Towers (30)
Love2Scrum, Dusk, Balck and White

With Oliver Townsend returning this week or next, What would be your New backline ? Not getting any bites from Rippa.

9 Dickens 10 McGregor 11 Quin 12 Barton 13 Townsend 14 J McLean 15 Takamou

After watching them on Sat, JMcLean and Takamou run the ball well when they decide to do it ( and should do it more often ) McLean's defence is wobbly at times so having Townsend at 13 gives you a second flyhalf to connect to the wingers/fullback. Barton is a solid defender and ball runner.
9 and 10 are playing well. The combos need to keep improving but ok at the moment.

Wyvernboy
It's very difficult to decide exactly as there are many great backs to choose from. With that said
9 - Dickens
10 - James McGregor
11 - Casey Mclean
12 - Oliver Townsend
13 - Jesse McLean
14 - Siteni Taukamo
15 - Will Quin

Siteni could most definitely play full back but i don't think will quin is utilized the best at wing. However, Jesse could move to play 14 Siteni at 15 and Will at thirteen. I think keeping townsend at number 12 is the best choice.
- Edward barton and Drew Williams will also be excellent reserves for the backline (if of course they are not in the first xv squad)
 

Black & White

Vay Wilson (31)
Never too late Rippa.

Two or three more trial games before the GPS Competition begins and the Achilles heel will be back at full strength.
Help Love2scrum

Agreed, as what I said earlier today, "what happens in the Preseason, usually stays in the preseason". Schoolboy Rugby teams are simply too dynamic and so capable of change as teams. Their best attributes, are yet to be revealed. Expect, some teams to be unrecognisable in few weeks time and certainly by the end of the season.
 

WLF3

Darby Loudon (17)
didn't see the 14's and 13's however the scoreboard was buggy and wasn't displaying the 15's results
New boys, unfortunately the 13s 14s and 15s were all cancelled at Newington and Queens Park. Only the 13fs Es and Ds played early at New, then the rest were called off, same with the 16s etc, only the 16As played, which was a terrific game in tough conditions.
 

Black & White

Vay Wilson (31)
New boys, unfortunately the 13s 14s and 15s were all cancelled at Newington and Queens Park. Only the 13fs Es and Ds played early at New, then the rest were called off, same with the 16s etc, only the 16As played, which was a terrific game in tough conditions.
Hello WLF3
Many thanks for that information and yes the New 16As, I am led to believe are a very strong side. Saw them in their younger years and they were a joy to watch back them.
 

propsarespeedy

Billy Sheehan (19)
Hi Rippa

Would love to know your Newington backline. Please post it.

Watched the 1st XV New v Wav game Sat. Firstly, congrats to Wav for a great win. Smart rugby and played to their strenghts. 1 and 3 were colossal and made plenty of metres. Surprised New didn't throw the ball more to tire them out. Wav 7 I think in red headgear. Very good player at the breakdown. Backline was good and on a dry track with their speed could cause problems.
Newington kept kicking away possession. The couple of times they ran from broken play ie;15, 13 they looked dangerous but too often would kick and chase. Don't know if that is a Coaching or player issue but giving away the ball to Joeys 15 etc will hurt them. New forwards were ok but didn't have a lot of punch at the advantage line. Defence was solid and 1st Wav try was an intercept. 22-14 was a fair score however Wav did play better for most of the game. New scrum got tested and came through ok but line out needs work. Noticed one tall second rower who played against Auggies was in 2nds this week.
Will be a good test against Knox. Newington need to play smart. They have a good backline but need to keep the ball in hand.

Rippa, please reveal your New backline. Very interested.

16A's New had a good tough win against a strong Wav and New 2nds played well for a win.

Wyvernboy
Even as a scots supporter, the Newington coverage/support is A grade this year.
 

Rippa

Peter Burge (5)
Hi Rippa

Would love to know your Newington backline. Please post it.

Watched the 1st XV New v Wav game Sat. Firstly, congrats to Wav for a great win. Smart rugby and played to their strenghts. 1 and 3 were colossal and made plenty of metres. Surprised New didn't throw the ball more to tire them out. Wav 7 I think in red headgear. Very good player at the breakdown. Backline was good and on a dry track with their speed could cause problems.
Newington kept kicking away possession. The couple of times they ran from broken play ie;15, 13 they looked dangerous but too often would kick and chase. Don't know if that is a Coaching or player issue but giving away the ball to Joeys 15 etc will hurt them. New forwards were ok but didn't have a lot of punch at the advantage line. Defence was solid and 1st Wav try was an intercept. 22-14 was a fair score however Wav did play better for most of the game. New scrum got tested and came through ok but line out needs work. Noticed one tall second rower who played against Auggies was in 2nds this week.
Will be a good test against Knox. Newington need to play smart. They have a good backline but need to keep the ball in hand.

Rippa, please reveal your New backline. Very interested.

16A's New had a good tough win against a strong Wav and New 2nds played well for a win.

Wyvernboy
Hello Wyvernboy
There is no one else there unfortunately there is no depth in the open squad
the current backline has virtually been the same for the last 2-3 years
if there’s injuries particularly to the Forwards there’s a major concern with depth
the backs which has an abundance of league jersey flegg players are playing dumb footy .
but I guess league is a completely different game to union‍
 

Rippa

Peter Burge (5)
Hello Rippa
No disappointment, just a reality check.Particularly, with it's backline. But the season is still early, so who knows. I would rather have Newington experiencing issues, now than later in the season. In Schoolboy Rugby a turn around in a team's performance, can often happen. So while there is no guarantee, this will happen, one can live in hope of better days to come.

If I remember correctly, back in about 2012, that Scots lost most of their preseason matches. Including a 43-5 thumping against Kings. In the last match of the season, Scots reversed the score, against Kings, to about 73-12.
As one commentator said on this site, "What happens in the Preseason, stays in the Preseason".

Regards
Black & White
Hi Black&White
unfortunately the GPS comp is 5 rounds not the old ten rounds
 

RonnyGibbs

Herbert Moran (7)
Hello Wyvernboy
There is no one else there unfortunately there is no depth in the open squad
the current backline has virtually been the same for the last 2-3 years
if there’s injuries particularly to the Forwards there’s a major concern with depth
the backs which has an abundance of league jersey flegg players are playing dumb footy .
but I guess league is a completely different game to union‍
None of the boys play Jersey Flegg. Flegg is under 21 and being played currently
 

Love2Scrum

Alfred Walker (16)
Hello Wyvernboy
There is no one else there unfortunately there is no depth in the open squad
the current backline has virtually been the same for the last 2-3 years
if there’s injuries particularly to the Forwards there’s a major concern with depth
the backs which has an abundance of league jersey flegg players are playing dumb footy .
but I guess league is a completely different game to union‍
Speaking to a Waverley dad on Saturday and during our conversation he mentioned that half of the 1st XV play rugby league at representative level so what’s the difference???IMO Waverley played smart rugby.

Barker have 5 or 6 players who play rugby league at representative level and look at the way they play. They absolutely demolished Newington in a trial game in 2021.

Joeys and Scots have 3 or 4 or maybe more players who play rugby league at representative level and look at the way they play rugby union.

So what’s the difference between the league boys playing rugby for Newington compared to the other schools???
 
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