Derpus
George Gregan (70)
thats kind of a blow - still got plenty to offer I think.
Brumbies 2023
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Wilson
David Codey (61)
Had offers from both the Force and tahs apparently, (I'm guessing the Reds didn't have the cap space) but the motivating factor was the desire to live overseas:
mst
Peter Johnson (47)
Unsurprising. So the deal is finally sorted. It is why he was leaving the Brumbies. He was open about that he was planning to head to the Northern Hemisphere when we asked him at the end of last season - but was holding off on the where until it was all sorted.
I presume that some of the Aussie teams might have had a crack in the intervening period.
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
This is going to be interpreted poorly by Brumbies fans I know, however I would like to see a system where teams who recruit academy players from interstate chip in for some of the development expenditure that went into them.
I don't mind Brumbies recruiting players from the Reds academy, its the nature of business/population etc, but it's increasingly competitive in Queensland with the Redcliffe Dolphins now targeting players also, so it would be good to see a monetary exchange that reflects the investment made in those players that could be reinvested, to ensure that the academy and development pathway stay competitive in presenting rugby pathways to appeal to the best young players.
I don't mind Brumbies recruiting players from the Reds academy, its the nature of business/population etc, but it's increasingly competitive in Queensland with the Redcliffe Dolphins now targeting players also, so it would be good to see a monetary exchange that reflects the investment made in those players that could be reinvested, to ensure that the academy and development pathway stay competitive in presenting rugby pathways to appeal to the best young players.
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Viking
Mark Ella (57)
I wonder if a new super rugby drafting system will help this, or be worse for this.
Tomikin
Simon Poidevin (60)
Maybe if you centralized that payment into the fighting fund so then they could help all clubs sign young players, across all teams. E.G. that they use this money to keep the kid in Rugby, more than just make the Reds stronger.
So Brumbies pay RA X for a player who moved from the Reds Academy to the Brumbies Academy, than use that money to give to a young player to stay in Rugby, most likely in the NSW / Reds Academy instead of NRL.
I think you would be hard pressed to somehow force a fee between the two teams directly as if the guys not under contract, then it's a bit tough.
The Ghost of Raelene
Andrew Slack (58)
This idea is essentially what happens in the Soccer systems throughout the world. You sign a kid a young age and develop them, if a team wants them they pay a fee to the owner club. Many lower tier English clubs are built off being strong academies and selling 1/2 players a year keep their facilities and senior team funded.
This is starting to occur in Rugby League more and more recently. I believe the Raiders have paid Super League team transfer fees for wanted players.
Eyes and Ears
Bob Davidson (42)
I don't think this is aligned with the national strategy though which is to grow the game from the top down in Western Australia and Victoria. I don't think you can choose to have 5 professional teams where a number of them don't have a player nursery to fund the professional team and then ask them to pay for the talent they recruit. The outcome will be that the developing teams would be even more disavantaged than they already are.
I must admit I struggle a bit with the development ownership model in Australia as I believe many instituions contribute along the way. Arguable the biggest youth academies in this country are the schools, so are you proposing a model where the Rebels should give compensation to Joeys or Nudgee etc?
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The Ghost of Raelene
Andrew Slack (58)
Good point about the schools.
You could bet if a kid at Joeys was “owned”by the Tahs the Waratahs would eventually start telling them not to play school rugby which would be a shit result.
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Jimmy Flynn (14)
Can anyone here give me an update on the general goings on of rugby in the ACT?
As in: the health of the game in seniors, juniors and schoolboy, brumbies interest, playing numbers etc.
Cheers!
As in: the health of the game in seniors, juniors and schoolboy, brumbies interest, playing numbers etc.
Cheers!
The Ghost of Raelene
Andrew Slack (58)
What won't?
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
If the players not under contract to the Reds, then it’s not about making the Reds stronger.
Pathways should be viewed holistically across the country, just because a player is in NSW pathways or academies doesn’t mean he should play for NSW, it’s a positive when players are kept in rugby and not poached by other codes.
In Queensland the pressure of other codes is increasing, Dolohins NRL especially is cannibalising those paths for rugby. Which will impact the recruitment for all Super Rugby clubs, not just the Reds. Nudgee college, once a wallaby breeding ground is now a Dolphins pathway.
Id be supportive of the Brumbies partnering with some schools in Brisbane to stabilise that pathway, as NRL clubs have done.
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