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Wallabies 2023

SouthernX

Jim Lenehan (48)
Jorgenson in a RWC? No thanks.

Did we learn nothing from 2011

My logic is same reason as we started Petaia in 2019.

the one good thing cheika got my respect on was backing the prodigy… back Jorgensen on his raw skills and freak ability (you can’t teach that type of speed)

behind Kerevi, Petaia was probably our best performer in Japan. he was 18 years old in 2019
 

Drew

Bob Davidson (42)
If he keeps playing well and shows something during the tests (assuming he’s picked), I’d definitely bring Jorgensen to the RWC. At present I don’t see the hit and miss aspect of most younger players. That being said, bench/squad member, not starter.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Cory Jane and Richard Kahui dominated JOC (James O'Connor), Ioane and Quade in the air in the 2011 semi. It's why we lost. The experienced back 3 of the top sides will kill Jorgenson with air raids.
 

7137

Alex Ross (28)
Cory Jane and Richard Kahui dominated JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor), Ioane and Quade in the air in the 2011 semi. It's why we lost. The experienced back 3 of the top sides will kill Jorgenson with air raids.
That’s because they targeted a weakness. Jorgenson already looks better under the high ball than they do.
 

rugboy

Bob Loudon (25)
I have no doubt Jorgenson will be the WB 15 at the 2027 RWC. I think he will be more valuable to the national set up than Sua'ali'i. I just think this year will be too soon to throw him to the wolves as a starter at international level in a RWC.
 

stillmissit

Chilla Wilson (44)
@Tomthumb still trying to argue that Noah is better than Gordon defensively. You may want to ask Caleb Clark, Mark Talea or Harry Plumber about that as they all got smoked last night
I think Carter Gordon is up there with the best defensive 10's we've had in a long time. A good all round 10 as well. Love to see him behind an equal or dominant pack. I hope he gets a run in the Wallabies.
 

Marce

John Thornett (49)
Cory Jane and Richard Kahui dominated JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor), Ioane and Quade in the air in the 2011 semi. It's why we lost. The experienced back 3 of the top sides will kill Jorgenson with air raids.
And who were the experienced back 3 who weren't pick? That year QC (Quade Cooper) and Digby Ioane won the Super Rugby title playing in high level

Being number 2 in world rankings and lose against ABs who scored only one try against you at Eden Park sounds quite good if you compare with the present
 

Doritos Day

Johnnie Wallace (23)
La Rochelle are lifting Skelton in the lineout to some success. Just won a penalty against Itoje.
Couple of knock ons early but since then his game with ball in hand has been incredible.

Must be playing for the Wallabies by any means necessary.
 

stillmissit

Chilla Wilson (44)
They all had 20 more Test caps than Jorgenson would.
Don't think it's to do with the number of tests but the accurate kicks and tackle timing that may wear Jorgenson down over the match.
Great young player but won't be the fullback at RWC. Not sure who it will be but I don't trust Tom Wright. He looks great against our average Super Rugby teams but under pressure, his brain goes walkabout.
 

Lightblue

Arch Winning (36)
Don't think it's to do with the number of tests but the accurate kicks and tackle timing that may wear Jorgenson down over the match.
Great young player but won't be the fullback at RWC. Not sure who it will be but I don't trust Tom Wright. He looks great against our average Super Rugby teams but under pressure, his brain goes walkabout.
Could see him as a winger candidate though in the Cheslin Kolbe mould? Genuine X factor and speed. Has surprised me how quickly he has adapted from schoolboy footy. Probably too early for this year but the Lions tour definitely… just keep learning young Jorgo.
 

Marce

John Thornett (49)
And how will the Wallabies fare?
It's a relative easy pathway to the semifinals. You avoid Ireland, France, South Africa and New Zealand until semifinal.

In the pool stage you are gonna face a beaten Welsh team, Fiji, Georgia and Portugal, you MUST win the pool.

In quarters you can face England, Argentina or Japan. A full strenght Wallabies side can beat any of them. After that you have 2 games to lift the Webb Ellis trophy.

In terms of World Rugby rankings you only could face one team above you: England. Luck is on your side cause you are seventh in the ranking and this is one of the weakest Welsh sides I can remember.

With the Wallabies you never know. The 2015 team should reach semifinal easily. The 2019 team could lose against Wales and be defeated by England like in 2019

Depth in key positions is the main issue and the short time that Eddie has before the tournament. A full strenght Wallabies squad with Bell, Slipper, Tupou, Kerevi, Valetini, Hooper, QC (Quade Cooper), White, Koroibete, Ikitau all fit, have a good chance but that would be something extraordinary. If the WC is tomorrow, without QC (Quade Cooper), Bell, Tupou and Kerevi, you are screwed.
 

stillmissit

Chilla Wilson (44)
We need a fullback who is big enough to take the hits and tackle well also smart enough to hit the line at the right time and atm we don't have one.

I have an odd suggestion that I won't be worried if knocked down but if Quade is 10 with Noah backup what about Carter Gordon at FB?

BTW I am still hoping for Gordon to be the backup for Quade.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
We need a fullback who is big enough to take the hits and tackle well also smart enough to hit the line at the right time and atm we don't have one.

I have an odd suggestion that I won't be worried if knocked down but if Quade is 10 with Noah backup what about Carter Gordon at FB?

BTW I am still hoping for Gordon to be the backup for Quade.
It's either Wright or Kellaway.
 
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