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Rugby Championship 2025: Wallabies v Argentina

Linerunner2023

Tom Lawton (22)
I like the idea of resting Nic, but if so Lonergan should start as closest to like-for-like with Nic, and Tate continues to close out the game from the bench.

I would also prefer JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) to start with Edmed on the bench for this next test.

Kellaway to 15 would be best interim solution but not necessarily the long term answer while Wright is out. I wouldn't mind Potter being trialled there if he has most of the required skills. Anyone know if he can kick effectively in general play? Could he be taught in quick time? From his play on the wing it looks like he is as good as any others in the air and has reasonable defence and good pace. Would it be so silly? JAS could stay at 13, Kellaway on the bench as versatile replacement and wing remains well covered with Jorgo, Toole and Pietsch when available again.
Yes a few options to look at it
One option is without moving to many is kellaway starts at 15 and maybe daugunu or potter to bench but potentially a short term option

otherwise jorgo to 15 with kellaway, daugunu or potter on the right wing

or Sua'ali'i at 15 and see how he goes and if he gets more room to move and daugunu or Paisami coming into the centre with ikatau
 
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Uh huh

Johnnie Wallace (23)
If Potter is back, then I think the time is right for Jorgensen to have a crack at 15. With his tackle busts, passing and playmaking, he's the best like-for-like replacement for Wright. Potter's size makes him a good foil for Toole as well. That's our best balanced back three.
 

twister29

Alfred Walker (16)
Bloody hell will we miss Wright no matter what. I think 15 is best spot for Kellaway, suits him more than the wing. Suali’i at 15 is an interesting one I haven’t really thought about it, for me, I want someone with a bit more defensive strength so again i’m putting 15 on Kellaway’s back.
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
Ross for Slipper is the only one that stands out on who I would have in the squad. Given James's age and has had a few HIAs in his log career, I'd have preferred Slips given a longer break.
Slipper was in great form during the Lions series. He's old and who knows whether he'll still be an option in 2 years, particularly given that he looked over the hill just 12 months ago. Itd be crazy not to play him while he's in this kind of form. I wouldnt hate putting him on the bench but schidt seems to like bell coming off the bench.

Ross looks a good prospect but schidt clearly wants him to earn his jersey which i dont mind
 

rugbyAU

Peter Fenwicke (45)
1 - Slipper
2 - Pollard
3 - AA
4 - Frost
5 - Williams
6 - Valetini
7 - McReight
8 - Wilson
9 - White/Lonergan
10 - Lynagh
11 - Toole
12 - Ikitau
13 - JAS
14 - Jorgensen
15 - Kellaway

16 - BPA
17 - Bell
18 - Tupou
19 - LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto)
20 - Hooper
21 - McDermott
22 - O'Connor
23 - Daungunu/Potter
 

Brumby Runner

Jason Little (69)
Yes a few options to look at it
One option is without moving to many is kellaway starts at 15 and maybe daugunu or potter to bench but potentially a short term option

otherwise jorgo to 15 with kellaway, daugunu or potter on the right wing

or Sua'ali'i at 15 and see how he goes and if he gets more room to move and daugunu or Paisami coming into the centre with ikatau
One thing I'm sure of is that JAS does not have a suitable kicking game to play 15.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

John Eales (66)
That is the biggest concern. Test sides are smart enough to put him in isolated positions where he only has a kick option or a very dumb run option. If he takes the kick option it's likely a big net gain for the opposition. Wright gets us out of our seats when he runs but he also has a huge boot on him. JAS will improve in that regard but I'd rather let him continue to grow in the Centres.

With a guy like Petaia back in Rugby I find it less attractive to have JAS as an option regardless of what the Tahs do with him.
 

Major Tom

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
I like the idea of Jorgensen at 15, he has been outstanding and deserves the shot and has openly said he wants to play there. Let's give the kid a crack. We have plenty of good wing options
I reckon you could probably trial him EOYT. I'm in favour of keeping things as much the same as possible while contending for the Bledisloe and RC though.
 

Linerunner2023

Tom Lawton (22)
One thing I'm sure of is that JAS does not have a suitable kicking game to play 15.
Agree however Tom wright also didn’t kick often but does have a great boot
More looking at options to give Sua'ali'i more freedom as centre he is nearly non existent and doesn’t have the best passing game
Unless jorgo goes to 15 and Sua'ali'i on a wing as well
 

Linerunner2023

Tom Lawton (22)
That is the biggest concern. Test sides are smart enough to put him in isolated positions where he only has a kick option or a very dumb run option. If he takes the kick option it's likely a big net gain for the opposition. Wright gets us out of our seats when he runs but he also has a huge boot on him. JAS will improve in that regard but I'd rather let him continue to grow in the Centres.

With a guy like Petaia back in Rugby I find it less attractive to have JAS as an option regardless of what the Tahs do with him.
I think petaia will be our best back going forward
Just need him to stay in the field and find a position to stick too
Even if it’s a wing
 

Yoda

Colin Windon (37)
I like the idea of resting Nic, but if so Lonergan should start as closest to like-for-like with Nic, and Tate continues to close out the game from the bench.

I would also prefer JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) to start with Edmed on the bench for this next test.

Kellaway to 15 would be best interim solution but not necessarily the long term answer while Wright is out. I wouldn't mind Potter being trialled there if he has most of the required skills. Anyone know if he can kick effectively in general play? Could he be taught in quick time? From his play on the wing it looks like he is as good as any others in the air and has reasonable defence and good pace. Would it be so silly? JAS could stay at 13, Kellaway on the bench as versatile replacement and wing remains well covered with Jorgo, Toole and Pietsch when available again.
Potter has definitely played at fullback before.
 

Tomikin

Michael Lynagh (62)
I think petaia will be our best back going forward
Just need him to stay in the field and find a position to stick too
Even if it’s a wing
Man, this has been trotted out since he came on the scene at 19... And he has still not ever been our best back, and he's 25.

I like him, but at the moment, he's a winger and a potential fullback/outside centre backup. Plus just went to the NFL, where you guessed it, he was still injured.

In our back line currently, Wright, Ikitau, and Jorgenson are better and have done more. JAS is new, but not nearly as broken.
 

todd4

Alex Ross (28)
I imagine it's been mentioned somewhere on this board that Petaia has signed a short term 9 month deal with French club Perpignan.
 

Linerunner2023

Tom Lawton (22)
Man, this has been trotted out since he came on the scene at 19... And he has still not ever been our best back, and he's 25.

I like him, but at the moment, he's a winger and a potential fullback/outside centre backup. Plus just went to the NFL, where you guessed it, he was still injured.

In our back line currently, Wright, Ikitau, and Jorgenson are better and have done more. JAS is new, but not nearly as broken.
Really? You don’t stay broken forever
Tom wright finally became good at 26 he is now 28
Petaia still has plenty of time
He had over 30 tests at around 22
 

Brumby Runner

Jason Little (69)
JP was one of the most promising players of the time when he first came into Super Rugby. I well remember, as a 19yo, he scored a try on his first touch of the ball against the Brumbies. Over the course of his Super Rugby and test careers to date, he has had his ups and downs but really never achieved the promise he showed early on. May have started 30 tests or more but never reached the position where he was a locked on starter, nor did he establish a singular position which he called his own. Even now, I daresay there would be argument about where his best position would be. I think it is just dreaming to suggest he would now be in contention for a Wallaby callup despite us looking lean at fullback right now. Given the strength of options now available in the outside backs he would need to prove himself with a season or more at a Super Rugby side before seriously being considered.
 

cyclopath

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
JP was one of the most promising players of the time when he first came into Super Rugby. I well remember, as a 19yo, he scored a try on his first touch of the ball against the Brumbies. Over the course of his Super Rugby and test careers to date, he has had his ups and downs but really never achieved the promise he showed early on. May have started 30 tests or more but never reached the position where he was a locked on starter, nor did he establish a singular position which he called his own. Even now, I daresay there would be argument about where his best position would be. I think it is just dreaming to suggest he would now be in contention for a Wallaby callup despite us looking lean at fullback right now. Given the strength of options now available in the outside backs he would need to prove himself with a season or more at a Super Rugby side before seriously being considered.
I tend to agree.
But...he has always had huge potential. In an ideal world where Joe Schmidt wasn't moving on, I think Joe might have been able to unlock it. We do have some depth developing well in the backs, and I wouldn't see him slotting in our best current line-up, but we also have a solid record of injuries and looking thin all of a sudden.
He could get in to the mix, but there is a big "if" hanging there, what with France then who knows thereafter. He may get considered sooner than we think.
 

Linerunner2023

Tom Lawton (22)
JP was one of the most promising players of the time when he first came into Super Rugby. I well remember, as a 19yo, he scored a try on his first touch of the ball against the Brumbies. Over the course of his Super Rugby and test careers to date, he has had his ups and downs but really never achieved the promise he showed early on. May have started 30 tests or more but never reached the position where he was a locked on starter, nor did he establish a singular position which he called his own. Even now, I daresay there would be argument about where his best position would be. I think it is just dreaming to suggest he would now be in contention for a Wallaby callup despite us looking lean at fullback right now. Given the strength of options now available in the outside backs he would need to prove himself with a season or more at a Super Rugby side before seriously being considered.
Yes and injuries and change of coaches including jones etc and his ability to play so many positions has gone against him
In 2023 I saw him play the brumbies at 15 and he never got tackled one on one making constant tackle breaks
I think he is still young and worth the investment to see how he goes
The more players we have competing though I believe the more this keeps the current guys honest and playing well
 

Yoda

Colin Windon (37)
JP was one of the most promising players of the time when he first came into Super Rugby. I well remember, as a 19yo, he scored a try on his first touch of the ball against the Brumbies. Over the course of his Super Rugby and test careers to date, he has had his ups and downs but really never achieved the promise he showed early on. May have started 30 tests or more but never reached the position where he was a locked on starter, nor did he establish a singular position which he called his own. Even now, I daresay there would be argument about where his best position would be. I think it is just dreaming to suggest he would now be in contention for a Wallaby callup despite us looking lean at fullback right now. Given the strength of options now available in the outside backs he would need to prove himself with a season or more at a Super Rugby side before seriously being considered.
Agree totally BR.
 
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