Reds 2016
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Gillys_ghost
Dave Cowper (27)
does anyone know much about Matt? i know he won premierships with leicester and Leinster but he was just sacked by Leinster wasnt he? obviously hes a huge step up from RG but is he the right guy? im not saying hes not i just dont know enough about him.
Highlander35
Steve Williams (59)
Good manager for winning. Not so much for attractive rugby.
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
Immaculate CV but the Leinster fans weren't exactly disappointed to see him go.
https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/36qeqd/matt_oconnor_to_leave_leinster/?ref=search_posts
https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/36qeqd/matt_oconnor_to_leave_leinster/?ref=search_posts
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Train Without a Station
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Dru,
Care to give us the list of coaches who have stood there when their jobs were on the line and said all failures were their own fault?
In fact let's extend that to any working professionals.
Be realistic with your expectations.
Care to give us the list of coaches who have stood there when their jobs were on the line and said all failures were their own fault?
In fact let's extend that to any working professionals.
Be realistic with your expectations.
Gillys_ghost
Dave Cowper (27)
RG at the end of last year said it was his fault that our Defence was so poor. unfortunately his reasons why was that he was said he was focusing too much on attack where we was just as hopeless.
dru
David Wilson (68)
It mightn't be the norm TWAS but yes on both counts. But you misdirect my wants. "ALL FAILURES were their own fault." Not required. A little humility and ownership, otoh. It's hardly to be unexpected that a Reds fan is concerned about that sort of rep from the fans of the guys last team.
At any rate, I'm not writing him off. That's me being realistic. Doesn't stop me being concerned.
emuarse
Chilla Wilson (44)
Hells Bell. The threaders there re Matt O'Connor sound eerily like us re RG.
Maybe its a coach swap.
TSR
Andrew Slack (58)
How open is the process of appointing a coach ever really going to be?
I do share a lot of the concerns regarding the current administrations lack of due process and due consideration over a number of decisions over the last few years. If other people have genuine insight into whether there was a satisfactory process followed prior to this appointment,I would love to be enlightened.
But I am mindful - change HAD to happen
- no appointment, regardless of credentials, is guaranteed to be a success
- the list of available candidates was likely to be reduced by the number who either had already committed elsewhere or weren't going to be available until after the World Cup, which didn't suit what the Reds needed
- I see the appointment of Damien Marsh as being highly supportive of superior results next year. I am also optimist that the appointments of Thorn & Stiles will prove to be positive
- if memory serves me correctly both Link & Cheika were sacked from their last coaching positions prior to moving to coach Qld/NSW respectively
The other big determinant to success is cattle - hopefully having clarity around the HC position will help recruit/retain the talent we need.
I do share a lot of the concerns regarding the current administrations lack of due process and due consideration over a number of decisions over the last few years. If other people have genuine insight into whether there was a satisfactory process followed prior to this appointment,I would love to be enlightened.
But I am mindful - change HAD to happen
- no appointment, regardless of credentials, is guaranteed to be a success
- the list of available candidates was likely to be reduced by the number who either had already committed elsewhere or weren't going to be available until after the World Cup, which didn't suit what the Reds needed
- I see the appointment of Damien Marsh as being highly supportive of superior results next year. I am also optimist that the appointments of Thorn & Stiles will prove to be positive
- if memory serves me correctly both Link & Cheika were sacked from their last coaching positions prior to moving to coach Qld/NSW respectively
The other big determinant to success is cattle - hopefully having clarity around the HC position will help recruit/retain the talent we need.
redstragic
Alan Cameron (40)
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
I'd argue that the success of 2011 was built on the losing pretty of 2009. Without that backline developed during that losing pretty time 2011 wouldn't have happened. How you play is more important than the results IMO. Just look at the Tahs, made the finals or there abouts playing and winning ugly and killed their supporter base doing it.
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
Given his name was bandied about over a month ago, does that make it open?
Given the fan comments about him does put a bit of a cloud over the appointment.
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